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<blockquote data-quote="Dave70968" data-source="post: 3002875" data-attributes="member: 13624">The proper comparison for a battery would be a gas tank.A meaningful comparison would be the vehicle as a whole: battery to gas tank, internal combustion engine to multiple electric motors (including the environmentally-scandalous rare-earth magnets required to make them), the steel body panels to the lightweight plastics (and the oil to produce them), etc.&nbsp; Who cares about just a battery?&nbsp; Without anything else, it&#039;s just something on which I can stub my toe.&nbsp; Give me total (environmental) cost of ownership, from the time all of the raw materials are in the ground until the end of its service life (200k miles, perhaps?), including all necessary fuel/energy inputs throughout, all repairs, etc.&nbsp; From there, adjust it for passenger-miles (based on typical occupancy, not maximum), cargo ton-miles (ditto), whatever is the vehicle&#039;s major purpose.&nbsp; Anything else is cherry-picked propaganda.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dave70968, post: 3002875, member: 13624"] The proper comparison for a battery would be a gas tank. A [I]meaningful[/I] comparison would be the vehicle as a whole: battery to gas tank, internal combustion engine to multiple electric motors (including the environmentally-scandalous rare-earth magnets required to make them), the steel body panels to the lightweight plastics (and the oil to produce them), etc. Who cares about just a battery? Without anything else, it's just something on which I can stub my toe. Give me total (environmental) cost of ownership, from the time all of the raw materials are in the ground until the end of its service life (200k miles, perhaps?), including all necessary fuel/energy inputs throughout, all repairs, etc. From there, adjust it for passenger-miles (based on [I]typical[/I] occupancy, not maximum), cargo ton-miles (ditto), whatever is the vehicle's major purpose. Anything else is cherry-picked propaganda. [/QUOTE]

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