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<blockquote data-quote="Rez Exelon" data-source="post: 3533886" data-attributes="member: 5800"><p>I'd argue that it'd just make me a politician. But again, my policy is that I'm not going to answer questions that are not asked in good faith, in the same manner that apparently the rumor about me is that people think I ask all my questions in bad faith. I really don't mind getting proven wrong, but I don't consider myself proven wrong until there is an argument that is data-driven and supported. So I like to ask for numbers and sources --- preferably reputable ones. </p><p></p><p>Coming back to this thread, I don't know that I'd say my initial reaction was that you lacked empathy or heart. But it's very dangerous in my mind to immediately skip to a political viewpoint. That skips over the human tragedy and goes straight to politicizing it and the whole concept of "never let a good tragedy go to waste". If the SUV really had a Biden stick, a MAGA sticker, Peace sticker, no sticker --- there's still a human tragedy which should be IMHO a loss on it's own merits. <strong>AFTER THAT</strong> comes the time where there should be an honest discussion about how they got there, what lead to it, and what could be done to fix that. IMHO that the politics still doesn't factor into the lives of those people affected --- it'd only affect the question of how we got there and how we could fix it. So really, the concept of mentioning a sticker or affiliation just doesn't bring much value to the discussion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rez Exelon, post: 3533886, member: 5800"] I'd argue that it'd just make me a politician. But again, my policy is that I'm not going to answer questions that are not asked in good faith, in the same manner that apparently the rumor about me is that people think I ask all my questions in bad faith. I really don't mind getting proven wrong, but I don't consider myself proven wrong until there is an argument that is data-driven and supported. So I like to ask for numbers and sources --- preferably reputable ones. Coming back to this thread, I don't know that I'd say my initial reaction was that you lacked empathy or heart. But it's very dangerous in my mind to immediately skip to a political viewpoint. That skips over the human tragedy and goes straight to politicizing it and the whole concept of "never let a good tragedy go to waste". If the SUV really had a Biden stick, a MAGA sticker, Peace sticker, no sticker --- there's still a human tragedy which should be IMHO a loss on it's own merits. [B]AFTER THAT[/B] comes the time where there should be an honest discussion about how they got there, what lead to it, and what could be done to fix that. IMHO that the politics still doesn't factor into the lives of those people affected --- it'd only affect the question of how we got there and how we could fix it. So really, the concept of mentioning a sticker or affiliation just doesn't bring much value to the discussion. [/QUOTE]
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