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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Go_Ordnance" data-source="post: 1200620" data-attributes="member: 7266">I agree, and think he jumps to conclusions about effectiveness based on number of shots.  He seemed to imply that 9mm, for example, is less effective.  Could just be bangers emptying a mag (as you noted).I just got a kick out of some of the phrases.  Here's another one: "I've seen folks killed by a bb to the eye and others survive after being hit by several well-placed rounds with a 9mm."Why would they take wounded people to the morgue?</blockquote>