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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1200716" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>Sounds like a bunch of facts mixed with his old-school opinion and some left out info (to me).</p><p></p><p>I'd love to see what actual bullets were found in those multiple-hit 9mm and other mouse-gun caliber victims. I'd venture to guess ball ammo or cheaper FMJ rounds and most likely target-weight bullets in that ammo (like Dennis said - cheapest ammo the bad guys can find).</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to think twice about carrying 15rds of 9mm Speer Gold Dot in all of my carry guns after reading that. I seriously doubt that the multiple gunshot victims he's seen are high-end modern-technology self defense bullets.</p><p></p><p>We've taken jugs of water and put wooden sticks in them (didn't dress them up with clothes though - that's probably another good test) and shot them with Federal Hydra-Shoks, Speer Gold Dots, Corbon DPX, Corbon Powerball, Remington Golden Sabers, etc... and gotten some seriously confidence-building results.</p><p></p><p>A 12ga isn't a magic bad-guy stopper either. Several websites have shown that you still have to aim, you have to use the right ammo, and often times, having 00buck isn't always as effective as people assume - and Shot-placement is still pretty critical if you understand how a 12ga patterns (not nearly as wide as people assume when under 10yds in a typical self-defense situation).</p><p></p><p>Still a good article, but it would be better with less opinion and more missing info about some of the bullets found in the multiple gunshot victims.</p><p></p><p>Here's some more good reading:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.theboxotruth.com/" target="_blank">http://www.theboxotruth.com/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1200716, member: 229"] Sounds like a bunch of facts mixed with his old-school opinion and some left out info (to me). I'd love to see what actual bullets were found in those multiple-hit 9mm and other mouse-gun caliber victims. I'd venture to guess ball ammo or cheaper FMJ rounds and most likely target-weight bullets in that ammo (like Dennis said - cheapest ammo the bad guys can find). I'm not going to think twice about carrying 15rds of 9mm Speer Gold Dot in all of my carry guns after reading that. I seriously doubt that the multiple gunshot victims he's seen are high-end modern-technology self defense bullets. We've taken jugs of water and put wooden sticks in them (didn't dress them up with clothes though - that's probably another good test) and shot them with Federal Hydra-Shoks, Speer Gold Dots, Corbon DPX, Corbon Powerball, Remington Golden Sabers, etc... and gotten some seriously confidence-building results. A 12ga isn't a magic bad-guy stopper either. Several websites have shown that you still have to aim, you have to use the right ammo, and often times, having 00buck isn't always as effective as people assume - and Shot-placement is still pretty critical if you understand how a 12ga patterns (not nearly as wide as people assume when under 10yds in a typical self-defense situation). Still a good article, but it would be better with less opinion and more missing info about some of the bullets found in the multiple gunshot victims. Here's some more good reading: [url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/[/url] [/QUOTE]
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