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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SoonerP226" data-source="post: 4244847" data-attributes="member: 26737">Sometimes it's the fixture, not the leaker. When we did our renovation and expansion right around the turn of the century, they put in new low water usage, auto-flushing urinals and toilets, and they worked really well. A few years later, somebody must've gotten a brother-in-law deal with the parent institution, because they came in a replaced all of the toilets and urinals with a different brand of low-flow fixtures, and those new urinals were splattertastic pieces of junk. You couldn't stand close to them unless you wanted your shoes and pants legs soaked--if you were the first guy to use one after the custodians had cleaned, you could see the fresh spray pattern in a lovely semicircle on the floor. The custodians absolutely HATED them, and I never heard one guy say anything positive after using those Godforsaken urinals.</blockquote>