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<blockquote data-quote="chuter" data-source="post: 3788362" data-attributes="member: 13693">Just thinking out loud here, not saying I&#039;m a proponent of red flag laws.Red flag laws that had a very precise list of things that indicate a threat, like posting on social media or making verbal threats of mass violence, and the ability to carry out the act.Isn&#039;t that close to what assault is?&nbsp; A threat and the ability to carry it out? (not a lawyer).If the threat doesn&#039;t say &quot;shooting&quot;, but something like &#039;I&#039;m going to hurt a bunch of kids at school&#039;, does that mean we take away all tools of violence?&nbsp; Knives, vehicles, hammers?&nbsp; What if there are no firearms in the home?&nbsp;&nbsp; If the firearms are properly locked up do they take all the family firearms?What if the threat is only made against one person; &quot;Billy is mean to me so I&#039;m going to hurt him&quot;, does that get a red flag?If a red flag order is issued should it come with mandatory counseling and inspection of the family and home by state DHS?&nbsp; To insure a healthy home life?If the person is dangerous enough to have his weapons taken away then they obviously need serious help. People making a false red flag claim should suffer some consequences.There are a lot of people now that think all republicans are evil and have blood on their hands for gun violence; these people should not be able to just say &quot;Johnny said some scary stuff and his dad has guns&quot; and be able to start red flag proceedings.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="chuter, post: 3788362, member: 13693"] Just thinking out loud here, not saying I'm a proponent of red flag laws. Red flag laws that had a very precise list of things that indicate a threat, like posting on social media or making verbal threats of mass violence, and the ability to carry out the act. Isn't that close to what assault is? A threat and the ability to carry it out? (not a lawyer). If the threat doesn't say "shooting", but something like 'I'm going to hurt a bunch of kids at school', does that mean we take away all tools of violence? Knives, vehicles, hammers? What if there are no firearms in the home? If the firearms are properly locked up do they take all the family firearms? What if the threat is only made against one person; "Billy is mean to me so I'm going to hurt him", does that get a red flag? If a red flag order is issued should it come with mandatory counseling and inspection of the family and home by state DHS? To insure a healthy home life? If the person is dangerous enough to have his weapons taken away then they obviously need serious help. People making a false red flag claim should suffer some consequences. There are a lot of people now that think all republicans are evil and have blood on their hands for gun violence; these people should not be able to just say "Johnny said some scary stuff and his dad has guns" and be able to start red flag proceedings. [/QUOTE]

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