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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1977458" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>The biggest problem with "helping kids" is that most kids who are going hungry or without proper care/education need more than money - they need good parents. </p><p></p><p>You can't provide that without putting an almost unbearable burden on the rest of society here in the US (that's a lot of adoptions). So the real answer is "how do we prevent these non-parents from having kids in the first place?".</p><p></p><p>Sterilization is one theory, but it's very much anti-constitutional (keep in mind, until someone becomes a scumbag-leach on society, you don't know they will be) and nobody is truly for it (the left thinks it's a violation of their civil rights, the right thinks it's a violation of their religious freedoms - both sides are technically correct).</p><p></p><p>Education is another way - use tax-dollars to prevent future kids from being criminals and deadbeat parents, and you might have a shot at a future, but it will take time, and it involves breaking a cycle of not giving a $#@! when people are already pretty set in their ways.</p><p></p><p>Do you "push them out of the nest" by cutting people off of any assistance in the hopes of forcing them to get jobs and be responsible? Not after the system has made them dependent. This will likely not help the kids any (parents who get jobs under protest because they have to are not going to automatically be good parents). A lot of folks will turn to crime, and a many will just die and let their kids starve to death.</p><p></p><p>It's a much more complex problem than just "welfare" or "education". I don't have a good answer, but it's clear that neither congress nor the president has had a good answer to this for several years now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1977458, member: 229"] The biggest problem with "helping kids" is that most kids who are going hungry or without proper care/education need more than money - they need good parents. You can't provide that without putting an almost unbearable burden on the rest of society here in the US (that's a lot of adoptions). So the real answer is "how do we prevent these non-parents from having kids in the first place?". Sterilization is one theory, but it's very much anti-constitutional (keep in mind, until someone becomes a scumbag-leach on society, you don't know they will be) and nobody is truly for it (the left thinks it's a violation of their civil rights, the right thinks it's a violation of their religious freedoms - both sides are technically correct). Education is another way - use tax-dollars to prevent future kids from being criminals and deadbeat parents, and you might have a shot at a future, but it will take time, and it involves breaking a cycle of not giving a $#@! when people are already pretty set in their ways. Do you "push them out of the nest" by cutting people off of any assistance in the hopes of forcing them to get jobs and be responsible? Not after the system has made them dependent. This will likely not help the kids any (parents who get jobs under protest because they have to are not going to automatically be good parents). A lot of folks will turn to crime, and a many will just die and let their kids starve to death. It's a much more complex problem than just "welfare" or "education". I don't have a good answer, but it's clear that neither congress nor the president has had a good answer to this for several years now. [/QUOTE]
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