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Message: <blockquote data-quote="red dirt shootist" data-source="post: 4217709" data-attributes="member: 52708"><p>For me, they still are the gold standard, but I'm a nostalgic old fudd. They came in several variations. I had one years ago that was called a Heavy Duck gun, although I don't remember if that was a Winchester name (50 years ago) 30 inch barrel, full choke, solid rib, and IIRC 3" magnum, it was a tank. Not only do the survivors have little bluing left but they have a lot of wear on the internals, my last one would not extract, but after a little work with a file I got it running fine. The other thing is because they are a takedown some guys try to do a barrel swap and you have the right ring size and now I'm over my head, so be careful.</p></blockquote><p></p>