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Think it's eazy to get a firearm from the Tulsa Police Property Room (Think Again.)
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<blockquote data-quote="Snapshot2022" data-source="post: 3908721" data-attributes="member: 51107"><p>I might explain just why i said the Discovery is very important it's the first time your really being recordered under oath with a Judge involved, first the Prosecutor questions the person who made the complant then your Attorney asks him questions all this is being recordered, the police officers report is no under oath so really is just a guidline has no real bearing on anything.</p><p>Now for around $50 in 2010 then it may be more today you better by a copy of the Discovery, with it you compair what you know are the true facts then when you get to trial be sure your Attorney when the person who brought the charge against you is under oath and your Attorney asks the same questions he was asked at the Discovery.</p><p>In my trial when being questioned he could not remember his lies and had a hard time answering the questions my Attorney was asking, jury picked up on this andas far as the threating of killing him that was dead and the Prosecutor knew it.</p><p></p><p>But the DA Tim Harriss was smart he asked for an alternate charge of reckless handling of a firearm to be added.</p><p>So now we go into this alternate charge of reckless handling of a firearm and where i really got lucky, as i said before you are not allowed to speak unless asked a question. the Prosecutor looked at me and asked me if i thought by me bringing a fully loaded handgun into the Gym with a live round in battery, had i not put others in the gym in danger of death this was his question.</p><p>I replied my firearm was in a holster that covered the guns trigger and i would have to have pulled it out of my gym bag and held holster i have the holster here would like to show it to thejury, Prosecutor told the Judge he objected Judge told him "You opened the door asking the question"and i would like to see the holster and so would the jury.</p><p>That ended the States case and it went to the jury and the State lost their case and it cost the taxpayers a lot of money.</p><p>Me it ended up costing me around $3000 and a year of sleepless nights, later i brought suite against the guy but a civil case is diffrent from a criminal case and proof of lost income and loss of sleep is not going to get you far, also even if i won a judjment it would take years to get any money and your having to pay your Attorney.</p><p>So we both agreed to dismiss it and pay our Attorneys but i did force him to hire an Attroney and make a court appearance cost me $1,500 but was worth it to cause him some trouble.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snapshot2022, post: 3908721, member: 51107"] I might explain just why i said the Discovery is very important it's the first time your really being recordered under oath with a Judge involved, first the Prosecutor questions the person who made the complant then your Attorney asks him questions all this is being recordered, the police officers report is no under oath so really is just a guidline has no real bearing on anything. Now for around $50 in 2010 then it may be more today you better by a copy of the Discovery, with it you compair what you know are the true facts then when you get to trial be sure your Attorney when the person who brought the charge against you is under oath and your Attorney asks the same questions he was asked at the Discovery. In my trial when being questioned he could not remember his lies and had a hard time answering the questions my Attorney was asking, jury picked up on this andas far as the threating of killing him that was dead and the Prosecutor knew it. But the DA Tim Harriss was smart he asked for an alternate charge of reckless handling of a firearm to be added. So now we go into this alternate charge of reckless handling of a firearm and where i really got lucky, as i said before you are not allowed to speak unless asked a question. the Prosecutor looked at me and asked me if i thought by me bringing a fully loaded handgun into the Gym with a live round in battery, had i not put others in the gym in danger of death this was his question. I replied my firearm was in a holster that covered the guns trigger and i would have to have pulled it out of my gym bag and held holster i have the holster here would like to show it to thejury, Prosecutor told the Judge he objected Judge told him "You opened the door asking the question"and i would like to see the holster and so would the jury. That ended the States case and it went to the jury and the State lost their case and it cost the taxpayers a lot of money. Me it ended up costing me around $3000 and a year of sleepless nights, later i brought suite against the guy but a civil case is diffrent from a criminal case and proof of lost income and loss of sleep is not going to get you far, also even if i won a judjment it would take years to get any money and your having to pay your Attorney. So we both agreed to dismiss it and pay our Attorneys but i did force him to hire an Attroney and make a court appearance cost me $1,500 but was worth it to cause him some trouble. [/QUOTE]
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