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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1986651" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>This is sort of the point of this entire thread.</p><p></p><p>- Obama Hates Oil (I don't know that this is true, but it certainly seems as if his lobbyists do)</p><p></p><p>- Obama's Administration has generated tons of regulations (this certainly seems true - even if Bush's administration also passed a ton of 'em)</p><p></p><p>- These regulations are detrimental to the energy-producing industries (OK - sure, I'll agree to that point as well)</p><p></p><p>But somehow, Oil production is up, they're making record profits (or at least were for 3 1/2 years under the big O), so how bad is it really affecting the Energy industry? Clearly there is a paradox with Oil, so everyone goes right to Coal - but are we really ignoring the fact that with newly discovered Fracking techniques and oil surplus... that the free market might actually be what's damaging the Coal industry and not the EPA?</p><p></p><p>I've looked at a lot of the regulations (thanks Shadowrider), but I guess the really difficult part is equating how much a regulation actually affects the industry (I can't believe I'm saying this, but RickN posted one of the most level-headed articles in this thread - it's a good read and states that the problem is much more complicated than a few sound bites).</p><p></p><p>My real reason for posting all of these "truth behind" threads is to educate myself as well as others and prevent this repeating of talking points without really thinking about what we're saying.</p><p></p><p>Think about it - the GOP had a very tired, unbelievable message that was almost a culmination of bull$#!+... and it cost 'em the election folks. </p><p>The next 4 years are just as much the fault of the GOP for pumping out talking-points that were so far off that they were essentially wild lying accusations. People got tired of it and as bad as Obama was, his lies sounded better.</p><p></p><p>Now let's get to the bottom of this EPA stuff...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1986651, member: 229"] This is sort of the point of this entire thread. - Obama Hates Oil (I don't know that this is true, but it certainly seems as if his lobbyists do) - Obama's Administration has generated tons of regulations (this certainly seems true - even if Bush's administration also passed a ton of 'em) - These regulations are detrimental to the energy-producing industries (OK - sure, I'll agree to that point as well) But somehow, Oil production is up, they're making record profits (or at least were for 3 1/2 years under the big O), so how bad is it really affecting the Energy industry? Clearly there is a paradox with Oil, so everyone goes right to Coal - but are we really ignoring the fact that with newly discovered Fracking techniques and oil surplus... that the free market might actually be what's damaging the Coal industry and not the EPA? I've looked at a lot of the regulations (thanks Shadowrider), but I guess the really difficult part is equating how much a regulation actually affects the industry (I can't believe I'm saying this, but RickN posted one of the most level-headed articles in this thread - it's a good read and states that the problem is much more complicated than a few sound bites). My real reason for posting all of these "truth behind" threads is to educate myself as well as others and prevent this repeating of talking points without really thinking about what we're saying. Think about it - the GOP had a very tired, unbelievable message that was almost a culmination of bull$#!+... and it cost 'em the election folks. The next 4 years are just as much the fault of the GOP for pumping out talking-points that were so far off that they were essentially wild lying accusations. People got tired of it and as bad as Obama was, his lies sounded better. Now let's get to the bottom of this EPA stuff... [/QUOTE]
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