This is Crazy! A Year and a Half Wait?

[druryj]

..."In the seven weeks since terrorists killed 14 people in San Bernardino, requests for concealed firearms permits have skyrocketed throughout the area, leading to crippling backlogs and massive delays at the public safety agencies that process applications.
San Bernardino County reported a nine-fold increase in concealed weapons applications in the month that followed the Dec. 2 terror attacks, and the surge continues. In Riverside County, the permitting process is so backlogged that it now takes a year-and-a-half to meet with an official to submit an application.
The spike is so pronounced that it has angered gun advocates and gun critics alike. To those who see the proliferation of firearms as a problem, another rush for guns is just the latest chapter in a tragically familiar story. To those who consider concealed weapons a constitutional right, government bureaucracy is paralyzing their best tool for self-defense".

http://newsok.com/after-san-bernard...un-requests-skyrocket-in-area/article/5473667

Can you imagine? Having to wait a year and a freakin' half just to meet with some minor beaurocrat to even submit your application to get a CCW license? That's a prime example of government in action!

 

[SoonerP226]

This seems fitting, given what Monday was:
"A right delayed is a right denied." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

[mugsy]

How long does it take CA officials to say Denied"?

 

[druryj]

This seems fitting, given what Monday was:
"A right delayed is a right denied." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

Bingo.


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[dennishoddy]

Its komifornika. What do you expect. Some of the strictest/stupidest gun laws in America.

 

[Oklahomabassin]

Probably an annual license with a 18 month wait. Stupid Cali!

 

[scottb42]

CA CCW licenses are granted based on the individual having "good cause." In general, it is up to the county sheriff to decide what constitutes good cause. Depending on the sheriff, that can mean anything from "applicant is a famous celebrity" (LA County), "applicant routinely carries around large wads of cash or valuables" (most urban counties), to "applicant wishes to carry for defense of self and others" (most rural and some inland urban counties). From what I understand, the San Bernardino County Sheriff is in the latter group, which is very close to "shall issue," at least it would be if you didn't have to wait 18 months. It has been a while, but I think the SB sheriff is one of the good guys, so hopefully they'll reallocate some resources and burn down their backlog.

So if you live in the right county it's actually not that hard to get a carry permit. Unless the sheriff puts specific limitations on them, they are good state-wide and (I think) are valid for three years. Unfortunately you'd still have to deal with all the other asinine state laws, so even with a CCW the place is still gun owner hell.

When I lived there our sheriff (Orange County Sheriff Carona) apparently used the "applicant gave lots of bux to my re-election campaign" as his main criteria, but apparently that didn't go over too well once the policy was brought to light. He got to spend some quality time in Club Fed over that one.

 

[bluedog46]

How long does it take CA officials to say Denied"?

CA is pretty liberal, but I was told it depends on the county. Some give permits fairly easily others are about as bad as new jersey. I am not sure which ones though.

 

[aarondhgraham]

but I was told it depends on the county.

This is true,,,
Before I left Cal in 1996,,,
The San Bernardino County Sheriff ran on a 2nd amendment ticket.

He was handing out carry permits like Candy.

The Riverside County Sheriff was the opposite,,,
The only way to get a carry permit from him was to "prove" extreme need.

Many of my friends established legal residency in San Bernardino County.

They did this by jointly renting a tiny apartment there,,,
And having their official mail (DMV, utility bills, etc) delivered there.

They also had to document that they had spent nights there on a somewhat regular basis.

It was all legal and above board,,,
It was the only way they could get permits.

Aarond

.

 

[bluedog46]

This is true,,,
Before I left Cal in 1996,,,
The San Bernardino County Sheriff ran on a 2nd amendment ticket.

He was handing out carry permits like Candy.

The Riverside County Sheriff was the opposite,,,
The only way to get a carry permit from him was to "prove" extreme need.

Many of my friends established legal residency in San Bernardino County.

They did this by jointly renting a tiny apartment there,,,
And having their official mail (DMV, utility bills, etc) delivered there.

They also had to document that they had spent nights there on a somewhat regular basis.

It was all legal and above board,,,
It was the only way they could get permits.

Aarond

.

I take it the riverside sheriff would not think "See Amendment 2 united states constitution" or "see the riots in fegeson or Baltimore" would be considered a good reason to him?