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<blockquote data-quote="ripnbst" data-source="post: 2005105" data-attributes="member: 16136"><p>Since I have nothing better to do at the moment, I will whip it out and take part in this pissing match.</p><p></p><p>My take on this is "timing is everything". If a guy approaches me and asks for money and I say no go away and then he asks again and I say no go away and then he gets within 5 feet of me and I feel threatened so I lift my shirt to show my previously CC'ed weapon, I have just brandished my weapon. Don't even attempt to feed me the line of bull "I decided to transition to OC." Likewise in the original scenario where the vehicle doesn't stop as soon as the pedestrian might like. Revealing in the middle of a confrontation is brandishing if it is done on purpose.</p><p></p><p>If instead of taking a step back toward the pump to replace the nozzle you reach from where you are standing which reveals the gun, IE, something that could be construed as a natural motion, I think you are in a much better place legally. Purposely lifting your arm randomly so it pulls the shirt up or actually reaching down and grabbing the shirt and moving it to show the firearm is brandishing. Using your head will keep you out of trouble and effectively accomplish the same thing.</p><p></p><p>You mean to tell me you just conveniently decided to "transition" form CC to OC? Yeaaaaaaahhhhh, riiiiiiight. And Obummer supports gun rights.</p><p></p><p>Reaching for the pump which happens to pull your shirt up is something much more defensible.</p><p></p><p>Transitioning from CC to OC is something that should be done discreetly. Not something you should do while someone is staring right at you that you are having a confrontation with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Per your post, "force with force" and you are interpreting his action as force. I suppose if he moved toward you menacingly and asked you for money, you would be legally covered to move toward him menacingly and ask him for money. Might confuse him enough to diffuse the situation entirely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ripnbst, post: 2005105, member: 16136"] Since I have nothing better to do at the moment, I will whip it out and take part in this pissing match. My take on this is "timing is everything". If a guy approaches me and asks for money and I say no go away and then he asks again and I say no go away and then he gets within 5 feet of me and I feel threatened so I lift my shirt to show my previously CC'ed weapon, I have just brandished my weapon. Don't even attempt to feed me the line of bull "I decided to transition to OC." Likewise in the original scenario where the vehicle doesn't stop as soon as the pedestrian might like. Revealing in the middle of a confrontation is brandishing if it is done on purpose. If instead of taking a step back toward the pump to replace the nozzle you reach from where you are standing which reveals the gun, IE, something that could be construed as a natural motion, I think you are in a much better place legally. Purposely lifting your arm randomly so it pulls the shirt up or actually reaching down and grabbing the shirt and moving it to show the firearm is brandishing. Using your head will keep you out of trouble and effectively accomplish the same thing. You mean to tell me you just conveniently decided to "transition" form CC to OC? Yeaaaaaaahhhhh, riiiiiiight. And Obummer supports gun rights. Reaching for the pump which happens to pull your shirt up is something much more defensible. Transitioning from CC to OC is something that should be done discreetly. Not something you should do while someone is staring right at you that you are having a confrontation with. Per your post, "force with force" and you are interpreting his action as force. I suppose if he moved toward you menacingly and asked you for money, you would be legally covered to move toward him menacingly and ask him for money. Might confuse him enough to diffuse the situation entirely. [/QUOTE]
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