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<blockquote data-quote="Jam Master Jay" data-source="post: 2007279" data-attributes="member: 10421"><p>I'm really not trying to be a troll. I don't see any strawman. Either transitioning to open carry is a threat or it isn't. The road rage incident that the OP offered up was probably a poor illustration but there are real life scenarios where exposing a gun can prevent an attack.</p><p></p><p>If a cop shoots a guy for exposing a gun, that cop will face some serious consequences. As I said in my post, there is a difference between revealing a gun and actively grabbing for it like you're going to shoot someone. And as in my post, what if the gun wasn't concealed before but the other person simply hadn't noticed it? or what if it was accidentally revealed by a gust of wind or ordinary movement?</p><p></p><p>I'm simply trying to illustrate that someone revealing their firearm is not using deadly force like some here were saying. <strong>The only reason I'm making an issue out of this is because I can see a time where exposing a gun could prevent a crime against the carrier from ever occurring.</strong></p><p></p><p>What about this scenario: You're in QT. A sketchy tweeker walks in the door in a suspicious manner. He's looking all around erratically and appears to be carrying a heavy object in his jacket. You open your jacket to reveal your gun and legally open carry. Are you threatening him with deadly force? It's not unrealistic to think that a criminal may come into a convenience store to rob the place and may shoot any other patrons there who witness the crime. Seeing your gun may cause the guy to reconsider. <em><strong>If you'd been open carrying all along there'd clearly be no issue, so why is there an issue if you were first concealed but later chose to be open?</strong></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jam Master Jay, post: 2007279, member: 10421"] I'm really not trying to be a troll. I don't see any strawman. Either transitioning to open carry is a threat or it isn't. The road rage incident that the OP offered up was probably a poor illustration but there are real life scenarios where exposing a gun can prevent an attack. If a cop shoots a guy for exposing a gun, that cop will face some serious consequences. As I said in my post, there is a difference between revealing a gun and actively grabbing for it like you're going to shoot someone. And as in my post, what if the gun wasn't concealed before but the other person simply hadn't noticed it? or what if it was accidentally revealed by a gust of wind or ordinary movement? I'm simply trying to illustrate that someone revealing their firearm is not using deadly force like some here were saying. [B]The only reason I'm making an issue out of this is because I can see a time where exposing a gun could prevent a crime against the carrier from ever occurring.[/B] What about this scenario: You're in QT. A sketchy tweeker walks in the door in a suspicious manner. He's looking all around erratically and appears to be carrying a heavy object in his jacket. You open your jacket to reveal your gun and legally open carry. Are you threatening him with deadly force? It's not unrealistic to think that a criminal may come into a convenience store to rob the place and may shoot any other patrons there who witness the crime. Seeing your gun may cause the guy to reconsider. [I][B]If you'd been open carrying all along there'd clearly be no issue, so why is there an issue if you were first concealed but later chose to be open?[/B][/I] [/QUOTE]
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