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<blockquote data-quote="Dalejbrass" data-source="post: 2728210" data-attributes="member: 26905"><p>I've been in the Catastrophe Claims Business for 20 years now and have seem some pretty gnarly carnage from Tornadoes and Hurricanes. I've seen many "above ground" shelters pass the test, but I've seen some that didn't.</p><p></p><p>For me, the safest place is below the ground when facing a serious weather event (F4-F5 tornado or CAT 4/5 Hurricane). It's not necessarily just the winds that become the problem in these storms....it's the "stuff" it makes airborne that becomes the problem. Think about any of the F5 tornadoes in Moore/OKC in the past 10 years where vehicles are being slung around like toys. I wouldn't want to be in an above ground shelter when a Ford F250 slams into it at 200 mph.</p><p></p><p>Now, if I were to build my own home again....and I was quite certain the slab was as strong as the shelter itself....that might be a different story. This is the fundamental problem with above ground shelters for me. Slab goes down (probably 3 1/2 to 4" concrete) and house is built on top. After the fact, someone comes in, decides where their going to put shelter, drill a bunch of holes through the slab and whawla, everyone is assumedly safe.</p><p></p><p>I've seen F5 tornadoes remove everything, including parts of or all of the concrete slabs on many homes (Joplin, Moore, OKC and other cities around the country).</p><p></p><p>This is why, for me, I will be below ground level when or if the big one ever comes at me. Just my .02</p><p></p><p>If you are wanting the above ground because you are wanting to serve multiple purposes, then I suppose it makes sense and will more than likely keep you and yours safe in most if not all weather situations you might face. </p><p></p><p>Back to me and if I ever build another house. My master closet or another closet on the ground level will be 6-8" reinforced concrete walls with reinforced floor and ceilings with a solid steel safe door on it, which will be my safe room, gun safe and storm shelter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dalejbrass, post: 2728210, member: 26905"] I've been in the Catastrophe Claims Business for 20 years now and have seem some pretty gnarly carnage from Tornadoes and Hurricanes. I've seen many "above ground" shelters pass the test, but I've seen some that didn't. For me, the safest place is below the ground when facing a serious weather event (F4-F5 tornado or CAT 4/5 Hurricane). It's not necessarily just the winds that become the problem in these storms....it's the "stuff" it makes airborne that becomes the problem. Think about any of the F5 tornadoes in Moore/OKC in the past 10 years where vehicles are being slung around like toys. I wouldn't want to be in an above ground shelter when a Ford F250 slams into it at 200 mph. Now, if I were to build my own home again....and I was quite certain the slab was as strong as the shelter itself....that might be a different story. This is the fundamental problem with above ground shelters for me. Slab goes down (probably 3 1/2 to 4" concrete) and house is built on top. After the fact, someone comes in, decides where their going to put shelter, drill a bunch of holes through the slab and whawla, everyone is assumedly safe. I've seen F5 tornadoes remove everything, including parts of or all of the concrete slabs on many homes (Joplin, Moore, OKC and other cities around the country). This is why, for me, I will be below ground level when or if the big one ever comes at me. Just my .02 If you are wanting the above ground because you are wanting to serve multiple purposes, then I suppose it makes sense and will more than likely keep you and yours safe in most if not all weather situations you might face. Back to me and if I ever build another house. My master closet or another closet on the ground level will be 6-8" reinforced concrete walls with reinforced floor and ceilings with a solid steel safe door on it, which will be my safe room, gun safe and storm shelter. [/QUOTE]
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