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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3572358" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Odd that everybody in government does not rely on obummercare for their healthcare? They have their own premium plan. I worked for the government at one time. Didn't even have to pay into SS as the government retirement system was much better. </p><p>It's obvious the folks you talked to in foreign nations must have been the elite with personal health care.</p><p> </p><p>In fact, countries with "universal" health care routinely ration care to their citizens to save money. An article in the British newspaper <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/08/nhs-rationing-denying-patients-care-cash-crisis-survery-doctors" target="_blank">The Guardian</a> noted in 2015 that "Patients are being denied mental health care, new hips and knees, and drugs to boost their recovery from illnesses including cancer as the NHS increasingly rations treatments to try to overcome its growing cash crisis."</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Can we agree to call this a death panel?</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Patients in countries like the UK and Canada also suffer chronic delays in getting treatment.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">You say they scorn our medical care. obummer care has been in place for over 10 years! I agree, I scorn it as well. </span></strong></p><p></p><p>Tens of thousands of Canadians come to the United States to get care they can't get from their own "guaranteed" health care system. In 2016, 63,459 Canadians did so, according to the <a href="https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/leaving-canada-for-medical-care-2017" target="_blank">Canadian-based Fraser Institute</a>.</p><p></p><p>Patients in the UK are increasingly spending money out of pocket to <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/08/two-tier-nhs-gps-allow-patients-pay-jump-the-queue-bournemouth" target="_blank">"jump the queue"</a> or get care the National Health Service won't provide.</p><p>J<strong><span style="color: #ff0000">ust like I said. The wealthy can jump and get their own health care.</span></strong></p><p></p><p>In short, just saying that a country "guarantees" health care as a right doesn't make it so.</p><p>I included links so you can read and weep.</p><p> Would you wish the same for your president, brain dead biden to not get the best care as the most powerful person in office? It's obvious you only wish harm on Trump or you would have championed his medical care because it opened up new care for covid patients. </p><p>Wasn't it amazing that when your socialist media discovered that Trump was advocating Hydroxychloroquine they jumped all over it as a deadly treatment potentially causing death when its been successfully used since the 40's and is one of the safest drugs ever produced?</p><p>I won't waste my time to post them, but we have links on this forum from others in the socialist government medical field stating the drug is dangerous, and as soon as Trump was cheated out of office, the very same person came out with a new report saying it was a possible great alternative drug to use against your communist buddies in china flu. </p><p>I love it when you libs say President Trump denied the wuhan flu. He was acting on the advice of your hero fauchi. A month after Trump put on a travel ban of anybody not a US citizen from China. Brain dead joe said travel bans don't work and fauchi was still saying masks don't work to prevent the spread. </p><p>You can keep spouting your cnn and msnbc propaganda but it doesn't make it true now and it didn't make it true back then. </p><p>Some of us on this board keep up with the facts and timelines. </p><p>Continue down this rabbit hole your in, and I'll keep presenting the facts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3572358, member: 5412"] Odd that everybody in government does not rely on obummercare for their healthcare? They have their own premium plan. I worked for the government at one time. Didn't even have to pay into SS as the government retirement system was much better. It's obvious the folks you talked to in foreign nations must have been the elite with personal health care. In fact, countries with "universal" health care routinely ration care to their citizens to save money. An article in the British newspaper [URL='https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/08/nhs-rationing-denying-patients-care-cash-crisis-survery-doctors']The Guardian[/URL] noted in 2015 that "Patients are being denied mental health care, new hips and knees, and drugs to boost their recovery from illnesses including cancer as the NHS increasingly rations treatments to try to overcome its growing cash crisis." [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Can we agree to call this a death panel?[/COLOR][/B] Patients in countries like the UK and Canada also suffer chronic delays in getting treatment. [B][COLOR=#ff0000]You say they scorn our medical care. obummer care has been in place for over 10 years! I agree, I scorn it as well. [/COLOR][/B] Tens of thousands of Canadians come to the United States to get care they can't get from their own "guaranteed" health care system. In 2016, 63,459 Canadians did so, according to the [URL='https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/leaving-canada-for-medical-care-2017']Canadian-based Fraser Institute[/URL]. Patients in the UK are increasingly spending money out of pocket to [URL='https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/08/two-tier-nhs-gps-allow-patients-pay-jump-the-queue-bournemouth']"jump the queue"[/URL] or get care the National Health Service won't provide. J[B][COLOR=#ff0000]ust like I said. The wealthy can jump and get their own health care.[/COLOR][/B] In short, just saying that a country "guarantees" health care as a right doesn't make it so. I included links so you can read and weep. Would you wish the same for your president, brain dead biden to not get the best care as the most powerful person in office? It's obvious you only wish harm on Trump or you would have championed his medical care because it opened up new care for covid patients. Wasn't it amazing that when your socialist media discovered that Trump was advocating Hydroxychloroquine they jumped all over it as a deadly treatment potentially causing death when its been successfully used since the 40's and is one of the safest drugs ever produced? I won't waste my time to post them, but we have links on this forum from others in the socialist government medical field stating the drug is dangerous, and as soon as Trump was cheated out of office, the very same person came out with a new report saying it was a possible great alternative drug to use against your communist buddies in china flu. I love it when you libs say President Trump denied the wuhan flu. He was acting on the advice of your hero fauchi. A month after Trump put on a travel ban of anybody not a US citizen from China. Brain dead joe said travel bans don't work and fauchi was still saying masks don't work to prevent the spread. You can keep spouting your cnn and msnbc propaganda but it doesn't make it true now and it didn't make it true back then. Some of us on this board keep up with the facts and timelines. Continue down this rabbit hole your in, and I'll keep presenting the facts. [/QUOTE]
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