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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 3043495" data-attributes="member: 24">I figured you&#039;d have no response to the innovation comment.&nbsp; How could you?&nbsp; There&#039;s some fascinating things going on the health industry right now, and it&#039;s not coming out of Canada and the U.K. As far as being in the accredited world?&nbsp; Really? We had no idea, I must&#039;ve missed it the 9832981 other times you&#039;ve mentioned it. lol&nbsp; No lesson needed, you&#039;re johnny come lately at this and you&#039;ve deemed yourself some wannabe intellectual and all knowing, people like you are old hat to people like me.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me wrong it&#039;s cute, but obviously you can&#039;t see past your narrative and apply logic.&nbsp;&nbsp; I agree on the same old arguments, different day.&nbsp; Do I have any evidence?&nbsp; Sure, I can access several government programs that are extremely inefficient, JUST within the United States, nevermind going all over the world and NOT cherry picking the best of universal healthcare examples.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t really matter because the question is how would the United States execute such a plan?&nbsp; You believe somehow that it would be wonderful,&nbsp; I&#039;m on reality and history&#039;s side of the .gov fawking up a wet dream.&nbsp; I can tell you Vermont tried single payer and it collapsed nearly immediately.&nbsp; I can tell you that people like you made all sorts of promises with Obamacare and look how it&#039;s turned out.&nbsp; Again, the VA is a joke but somehow magically, that will all go away in your world.&nbsp;&nbsp; But where&#039;s your evidence?&nbsp; Looking to Canada and other countries of the like doesn&#039;t work.&nbsp; Doesn&#039;t work in gun policy because it&#039;s not a direct comparison.&nbsp; Why does it all of the sudden work in healthcare in your mind?&nbsp; The demographics , the healthcare systems and infrastructure, economy, and especially the government are completely different. As far as universal health care coming?&nbsp; We will see,&nbsp; we won&#039;t get there with economic geniuses such as Bernie putting their best foot forward.&nbsp; So you can yell.... &quot;I want the government to take care of me&quot; all you like but I&#039;ll take reality, common sense, and logic over any whatever coulda, shoulda, woulda study or paper you want to reference.&nbsp; You see I haven&#039;t forgotten all the broken promises politicians and .gov have made.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JD8, post: 3043495, member: 24"] I figured you'd have no response to the innovation comment. How could you? There's some fascinating things going on the health industry right now, and it's not coming out of Canada and the U.K. As far as being in the accredited world? Really? We had no idea, I must've missed it the 9832981 other times you've mentioned it. lol No lesson needed, you're johnny come lately at this and you've deemed yourself some wannabe intellectual and all knowing, people like you are old hat to people like me. Don't get me wrong it's cute, but obviously you can't see past your narrative and apply logic. I agree on the same old arguments, different day. Do I have any evidence? Sure, I can access several government programs that are extremely inefficient, JUST within the United States, nevermind going all over the world and NOT cherry picking the best of universal healthcare examples. It doesn't really matter because the question is how would the United States execute such a plan? You believe somehow that it would be wonderful, I'm on reality and history's side of the .gov fawking up a wet dream. I can tell you Vermont tried single payer and it collapsed nearly immediately. I can tell you that people like you made all sorts of promises with Obamacare and look how it's turned out. Again, the VA is a joke but somehow magically, that will all go away in your world. But where's your evidence? Looking to Canada and other countries of the like doesn't work. Doesn't work in gun policy because it's not a direct comparison. Why does it all of the sudden work in healthcare in your mind? The demographics , the healthcare systems and infrastructure, economy, and especially the government are completely different. As far as universal health care coming? We will see, we won't get there with economic geniuses such as Bernie putting their best foot forward. So you can yell.... "I want the government to take care of me" all you like but I'll take reality, common sense, and logic over any whatever coulda, shoulda, woulda study or paper you want to reference. You see I haven't forgotten all the broken promises politicians and .gov have made. [/QUOTE]

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