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<blockquote data-quote="Cue" data-source="post: 1826004" data-attributes="member: 1708"><p>Ok, I can understand funding issues. I am not a planner nor an engineer. Let's take I 244 for example. </p><p> I 244 has been under construction inside the inner dispersal loop for 5 years straight now. </p><p></p><p>They completely did a ground up repair on this interstate that took over a year once they actually started tearing it out. Once they finished the repair, they immediately took it back down to two lane to rebuild the bridges over the Arkansas River. </p><p></p><p>Here are my questions to ODOT Planners.</p><p></p><p>1. Why on earth did they spend money rebuilding that section only to tear it out once it was finished?</p><p>2. How come we can not create smaller projects with more contracts to work on smaller sections to allow the jobs to be completed faster? One example would be the bridge itself on I244 over the Arkansas River. We have the engineering capacity to start work on both sides of the river and meet in the middle. </p><p>2-a.Why was this not planned this way? </p><p>2-b.Why did they not start that bridge project at the same time they started the complete build up of the non bridge surfaces. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is just one section in Tulsa. But that model is used throughout the state. This is clearly not a funding issue. It is a planning and bid contracting issue. It would not be to much more complex or costly to work this way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cue, post: 1826004, member: 1708"] Ok, I can understand funding issues. I am not a planner nor an engineer. Let's take I 244 for example. I 244 has been under construction inside the inner dispersal loop for 5 years straight now. They completely did a ground up repair on this interstate that took over a year once they actually started tearing it out. Once they finished the repair, they immediately took it back down to two lane to rebuild the bridges over the Arkansas River. Here are my questions to ODOT Planners. 1. Why on earth did they spend money rebuilding that section only to tear it out once it was finished? 2. How come we can not create smaller projects with more contracts to work on smaller sections to allow the jobs to be completed faster? One example would be the bridge itself on I244 over the Arkansas River. We have the engineering capacity to start work on both sides of the river and meet in the middle. 2-a.Why was this not planned this way? 2-b.Why did they not start that bridge project at the same time they started the complete build up of the non bridge surfaces. This is just one section in Tulsa. But that model is used throughout the state. This is clearly not a funding issue. It is a planning and bid contracting issue. It would not be to much more complex or costly to work this way. [/QUOTE]
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