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<blockquote data-quote="nofearfactor" data-source="post: 2659622" data-attributes="member: 1535"><p>I did my heavy drinking earlier in my life 25 years ago while working the bars and clubs in CA as a musician. I admit to driving home when I shouldnt have more than a few times. I didnt get caught and I never had an accident and I never hurt any one. But I could have. When I had my first kid though, that life was over, wifes orders. On wife No#3 now and those orders have not changed.</p><p></p><p>I totally get where some people are concerned that law makers and law enforcers are stretching their limits and using thin liberties given to them by the higher courts. I also get the objective is to push back against a new modern version of crime that is increasing and becoming more sophisticated every day. Crime that has never been seen in history has law enforcement in an ever increasing need to beef up gear (small town departments are even recieving used military vehicles to use in crime fighting), train train and design new tactics to be able to be ahead not just compete with what all they have to deal with today. </p><p></p><p>Traffic is a major tool for law enforcement, I get it. Basically when the roaches are out of the nest and in plain view they think its ok to shake them down while theyre out and see what theyve done or what theyre up to, and IF they fit their LOOSE version of an M.O then further investigation is required. In turn they may also have to shave off more and more pieces of everybody elses rights in the process to catch the bad guys. At what cost to our selves do we allow the govt to police our society in order to protect us from us? We already incarcerate more humans than anyone else. </p><p></p><p>Today, twenty five years after my first kid was born, I now own an interest within a group of friends' bar management company but I still wont drink when Im there. I dont drink wine or even have one beer any more when Im outside my own house any where any more. I just dont have a very good record with setting limits, so its best that I wait until Im home and have a soda or three. That one drink every hour thing confuses me anyways. I dont know what it takes to go past .08% for a 5'10"x 260lb dude. 265 on weekends. I just dont feel I should take my chances.. </p><p></p><p>I have been asked more than a few times if they could look thru my car. Usually when Im in one of my cars that are still tagged in CA but Im in like Iowa, Missouri, etc. I let them. So far I have never had them damage anything, I have access to legal representation and financial resources if something does go wrong though.</p><p></p><p>I never have anything to hide and I know they have a job to do so I kind of understand. But how far do we have to understand when we are observing laws and living clean and working hard and some other turds who have decided its easier to be criminals and are fcking things up for us guys who go to work every day.</p><p></p><p>When Im safe at home, and I know Im in for the night, then all I can say is bring it on, Im getting fcked up...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nofearfactor, post: 2659622, member: 1535"] I did my heavy drinking earlier in my life 25 years ago while working the bars and clubs in CA as a musician. I admit to driving home when I shouldnt have more than a few times. I didnt get caught and I never had an accident and I never hurt any one. But I could have. When I had my first kid though, that life was over, wifes orders. On wife No#3 now and those orders have not changed. I totally get where some people are concerned that law makers and law enforcers are stretching their limits and using thin liberties given to them by the higher courts. I also get the objective is to push back against a new modern version of crime that is increasing and becoming more sophisticated every day. Crime that has never been seen in history has law enforcement in an ever increasing need to beef up gear (small town departments are even recieving used military vehicles to use in crime fighting), train train and design new tactics to be able to be ahead not just compete with what all they have to deal with today. Traffic is a major tool for law enforcement, I get it. Basically when the roaches are out of the nest and in plain view they think its ok to shake them down while theyre out and see what theyve done or what theyre up to, and IF they fit their LOOSE version of an M.O then further investigation is required. In turn they may also have to shave off more and more pieces of everybody elses rights in the process to catch the bad guys. At what cost to our selves do we allow the govt to police our society in order to protect us from us? We already incarcerate more humans than anyone else. Today, twenty five years after my first kid was born, I now own an interest within a group of friends' bar management company but I still wont drink when Im there. I dont drink wine or even have one beer any more when Im outside my own house any where any more. I just dont have a very good record with setting limits, so its best that I wait until Im home and have a soda or three. That one drink every hour thing confuses me anyways. I dont know what it takes to go past .08% for a 5'10"x 260lb dude. 265 on weekends. I just dont feel I should take my chances.. I have been asked more than a few times if they could look thru my car. Usually when Im in one of my cars that are still tagged in CA but Im in like Iowa, Missouri, etc. I let them. So far I have never had them damage anything, I have access to legal representation and financial resources if something does go wrong though. I never have anything to hide and I know they have a job to do so I kind of understand. But how far do we have to understand when we are observing laws and living clean and working hard and some other turds who have decided its easier to be criminals and are fcking things up for us guys who go to work every day. When Im safe at home, and I know Im in for the night, then all I can say is bring it on, Im getting fcked up... [/QUOTE]
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