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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The German" data-source="post: 1983377" data-attributes="member: 24525">As an employeer, unions typically cost you more money and cause you more headache, but they also keep yoou in check.As an employee, they keep you safe from management having free will on you and changing and doing whatever they want.It is really much deeper than union vs nonunion.  It has more to do with the CBA that is agreed on between management and employees.  I am a union member but I am also a government employee so things are a little different.  We just went through a new CBA negotiations, but due to realignment there were 2 work areas now combined, we each had different unions, so we had a vote for this union, that union, or no union.  The biggest thing is that if it went to no union, then my 6 hrs of leave every pay period could be changed to 2, my sick leave could be taken away.  I could get in trouble and management would not have an obligation to discuss it with me.Unions get a bad rap from employees because as you said they protect the bad employees too.  But it is important to remember that they are protecting the PROCESS not the individual.  I am involved in my union, but just interviewed for a managers job yesterday, I think what I have learned being involved in a union will greatly help when I am management. If the process is the complaint then they need a better CBA.Without unions things would probably be cheaper, but also less regulated internally.  There would be more employee turn around since employers willl more freely fire people.  There would be no obligation to train employees.  It is a give and take discussion.  Most people complain about unions but have never been a part of one, or dont like them because when they were part of one they did not protect them when they got caught sleepling on the job or doing something else stupid.</blockquote>

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