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<blockquote data-quote="11b1776" data-source="post: 1983418" data-attributes="member: 18139"><p>I am a union member I will try and answer some of your questions.</p><p>Question 1; yes even the crap employees are under the same protection as everyone else. Are there more steps to firing a union employee vs a non union in most cases yes. Most unions have payed holidays of some type even if they do not work. To me these are plus' except the crap employee part.</p><p></p><p>#2. Like everything else the media shows only what they want people to hear. The big 3 automakers problems are mostly put on the UAW, they are the exception rather than the rule for unions. Most corporations that have unions work hand in hand together to get things done, nothing over the top, unlike some of the things the UAW workers got.</p><p></p><p>#3. I think wages and benefits would defiantly would go down, firing without cause would happen, but would thing stop, no people have families and bills to pay. No government regulations would mean no safety, no workers comp, but big profits marins for business'</p><p></p><p>#4. Crap employees do cost the company production, worker comp problems, things of that nature, but aren't much different than ununion crap employees doing the same thing. I bet everyone has an example of joe blow not doing his fair share, faking accidents/injurys. The unions has more steps to take to fire someone but if they go by the rules they have agreed to there is nothing the union can do, they don't have a leg to stand on. </p><p></p><p>If you have other questions or want a better answer let me know I will try to answer them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="11b1776, post: 1983418, member: 18139"] I am a union member I will try and answer some of your questions. Question 1; yes even the crap employees are under the same protection as everyone else. Are there more steps to firing a union employee vs a non union in most cases yes. Most unions have payed holidays of some type even if they do not work. To me these are plus' except the crap employee part. #2. Like everything else the media shows only what they want people to hear. The big 3 automakers problems are mostly put on the UAW, they are the exception rather than the rule for unions. Most corporations that have unions work hand in hand together to get things done, nothing over the top, unlike some of the things the UAW workers got. #3. I think wages and benefits would defiantly would go down, firing without cause would happen, but would thing stop, no people have families and bills to pay. No government regulations would mean no safety, no workers comp, but big profits marins for business' #4. Crap employees do cost the company production, worker comp problems, things of that nature, but aren't much different than ununion crap employees doing the same thing. I bet everyone has an example of joe blow not doing his fair share, faking accidents/injurys. The unions has more steps to take to fire someone but if they go by the rules they have agreed to there is nothing the union can do, they don't have a leg to stand on. If you have other questions or want a better answer let me know I will try to answer them. [/QUOTE]
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