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Message: <blockquote data-quote="p238shooter" data-source="post: 1984076" data-attributes="member: 24583">This most likely was a different situation.  The contractors who signed up to use union help called the union hall to take from a pool of available electricians as needed. (they had a choice)  To be a union electrician you applied to go through the union electricians training program.  If accepted, they trained you, you worked for contractors as an apprentice 4 years while attending school 2 nights a week, and then you became a journeyman electrician.  Getting great training was available, but many were passed through the system because they were Billy Bob's son, nephew, or brother.  Most journeyman electricians made the same money, which was very good in that day and time.  I got some perks like a truck to drive back and forth to work and a few other special benefits to entice me to stay with a contractor that appreciated my work ethics at times, but when they ran out of work, I moved on.  I quit one contractor and told him why who was doing the Jenks powerhouse when myself and my apprentice had used up our "allotment" of conduit for the day at noon and were told to take these ladders and go to the top floor and sight see for a while.  The Drones were trying to push it into overtime by slowing down the job.  There was nothing the contractor could do.  There was something I could do, so I left, went to the union hall, complained that that was not my style.  I made a few calls to contractors I had worked for in the past, and was called called by the union hall that a contractor had a need for me the next day. All this is not to toot my own horn, but to show that if you apply you self and do your job you can get ahead, or you can FOff and help slow the job down and get a little overtime.  I made my choice.  My yearly earning were ahead of most of them, I was employed all year, not the first to be laid off every job like many of them.Both of the business I owned would have been more profitable for me and some of that would have been returned to my good employees if I could have chosen who I could hire and who I could fire without a hassle.  Between the union and the government, this is hard.Your situation seems to be a little different as when a candidate gives a great song and dance to management, shows up and usually does OK during the 90day probation time, then falls off.  Why does your union protect these type of people and give your union a bad name?  Does your union have any ethics other than protecting everyone, good or bad?  It seems your union needs to change its policy.</blockquote>

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