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<blockquote data-quote="ewheeley" data-source="post: 1301985" data-attributes="member: 10387"><p>I'm on the fence about CC on campus.</p><p></p><p>Although I'm 100% confident of my ability to conduct myself properly with a CCW, I'm not so sure about the majority of my peers. People that I otherwise trust and whose company I enjoy, I wouldn't be caught dead around with a gun.</p><p></p><p>If there were a way to allow CC on campus, but increase the safety regulations to avoid certain individuals from carrying. My prejudice is showing, I'm sure, but I would be afraid of too many well-to-do <strong>sorority girls'</strong> parents buying them a gun and getting them through the process of obtaining a CCW. You can argue that the certification process to get a CCW weeds out the individuals who can't properly handle their weapons, but everyone on here knows that some CCers are just as much a danger to themselves and those around them as the mass shooters they intend to protect themselves from.</p><p></p><p>To put it simply, I know for a fact that a lot of people already carry on campus, and the fact that they aren't regulated scares me. When I think of some of the people I sit next to in class, and imagine them on the trigger end of a firearm, that bothers me. </p><p></p><p>Also, IIRC, anyone with a CCW cannot legally enter a bar/establishment that serves alcohol with their weapon? What is college, if not for one giant establishment that serves alcohol? My dorm is up the hill from Frat Row, and I hear some pretty good drunken arguments each night. Add firearms, and there's an accident waiting to happen.</p><p></p><p>In the end, though, I would still support CC on campus. Just in a much stricter sense... First, a minimum GPA, community involvement, recommendations. I know it may sound absurd, but my goal would be to weed out anyone with poor or irrational intentions. I got an appointment to USAFA (long story there), and an application along those lines is just the beginning of the process that I would want to see to actually allow college students to carry on campus. And, even if someone met all the criteria on paper, I would expect to see a practical failure rate of at least 50%. To guarantee some form of order and safety, I would hope to see training consist of more than just a few hours in the classroom and at the range.</p><p></p><p>So, my point is that I would trust myself and few others (mainly ROTC buddies) to have the composure and the self-control to carry on campus, but I feel justified in saying that the majority of college students lack the maturity that comes from living in the adult world (quit kidding yourself if you think all college students are adults) and wouldn't be able to properly handle the <strong><em>responsibility</em></strong> involved.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ewheeley, post: 1301985, member: 10387"] I'm on the fence about CC on campus. Although I'm 100% confident of my ability to conduct myself properly with a CCW, I'm not so sure about the majority of my peers. People that I otherwise trust and whose company I enjoy, I wouldn't be caught dead around with a gun. If there were a way to allow CC on campus, but increase the safety regulations to avoid certain individuals from carrying. My prejudice is showing, I'm sure, but I would be afraid of too many well-to-do [B]sorority girls'[/B] parents buying them a gun and getting them through the process of obtaining a CCW. You can argue that the certification process to get a CCW weeds out the individuals who can't properly handle their weapons, but everyone on here knows that some CCers are just as much a danger to themselves and those around them as the mass shooters they intend to protect themselves from. To put it simply, I know for a fact that a lot of people already carry on campus, and the fact that they aren't regulated scares me. When I think of some of the people I sit next to in class, and imagine them on the trigger end of a firearm, that bothers me. Also, IIRC, anyone with a CCW cannot legally enter a bar/establishment that serves alcohol with their weapon? What is college, if not for one giant establishment that serves alcohol? My dorm is up the hill from Frat Row, and I hear some pretty good drunken arguments each night. Add firearms, and there's an accident waiting to happen. In the end, though, I would still support CC on campus. Just in a much stricter sense... First, a minimum GPA, community involvement, recommendations. I know it may sound absurd, but my goal would be to weed out anyone with poor or irrational intentions. I got an appointment to USAFA (long story there), and an application along those lines is just the beginning of the process that I would want to see to actually allow college students to carry on campus. And, even if someone met all the criteria on paper, I would expect to see a practical failure rate of at least 50%. To guarantee some form of order and safety, I would hope to see training consist of more than just a few hours in the classroom and at the range. So, my point is that I would trust myself and few others (mainly ROTC buddies) to have the composure and the self-control to carry on campus, but I feel justified in saying that the majority of college students lack the maturity that comes from living in the adult world (quit kidding yourself if you think all college students are adults) and wouldn't be able to properly handle the [B][I]responsibility[/I][/B] involved. [/QUOTE]
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