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<blockquote data-quote="NEB2021" data-source="post: 4169752" data-attributes="member: 52802">I am literally at the behest of the government no matter what I do or what city I live in so technically the country is a nanny state but I understand the point you are making. And I&#039;m sorry but statistics aren&#039;t metrics defined by liberals, there&#039;s actual science and data to back them up unlike a &quot;freedom index&quot; but I get what you mean by the latter. I also don&#039;t define our government being required to do whatever it takes to protect it&#039;s citizens as being a nanny state. Do some things suck and I don&#039;t agree with them? Yes, absolutely but again that&#039;s on both sides. Education also isn&#039;t a political battle at least it shouldn&#039;t be. Hell I believe that in state education should be free but it&#039;s obvious why I believe that /s. I too value my freedom but I also want my government (federal and state) to provide for me what&#039;s due and promised ie social security or the many other social safety nets I pay taxes for. And I promise you I&#039;m not the odd duck. Minority? Oh you bet but definitely not alone.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NEB2021, post: 4169752, member: 52802"] I am literally at the behest of the government no matter what I do or what city I live in so technically the country is a nanny state but I understand the point you are making. And I'm sorry but statistics aren't metrics defined by liberals, there's actual science and data to back them up unlike a "freedom index" but I get what you mean by the latter. I also don't define our government being required to do whatever it takes to protect it's citizens as being a nanny state. Do some things suck and I don't agree with them? Yes, absolutely but again that's on both sides. Education also isn't a political battle at least it shouldn't be. Hell I believe that in state education should be free but it's obvious why I believe that /s. I too value my freedom but I also want my government (federal and state) to provide for me what's due and promised ie social security or the many other social safety nets I pay taxes for. And I promise you I'm not the odd duck. Minority? Oh you bet but definitely not alone. [/QUOTE]

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