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<blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 3470730" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>Perhaps you're referring to a different case, which i might not be aware of, but an out of state tags issue has reached at least one judge. If you are referring to something else, i'd appreciate if you could post a link to read more about the driver who confirmed these things because i'm not aware of the case.</p><p></p><p>With regards to at least one case regarding 'out of state tags', though, i know it has already been before a judge and the case went no where. In that instance it was because both sides were allowed to present testimony and the person who gave the sworn testimony was shown to have not been in the position to know the whole of the situation. The person wasn't lying about what they saw, mind you. But when given the chance to view both sides of the situation, the election official confirmed that what the person saw was right and noted that the trucks they rented to haul the ballots did in fact have out of state tags.</p><p></p><p>A person can swear under oath about things they saw, be telling the truth and still be wrong about the implications. That is one reason why pointing to 'sworn affidavits' can contribute to supporting the narrative but also might not indicate what people think they do.</p><p></p><p>As for the stuff about remote manipulation and the like, i might have missed it too (it's a busy work time, but down from 'insane' because of covid). Has there been any direct evidence given that showed it happened? I don't think anyone that i've seen has said it couldn't happen, but could and did are different things (as everyone already knows, i'm sure). Yes, we've been told there are lots of things to point towards manipulation, corruption and the the like, but we also know that the system created a printed copy of the ballot, which was then given to election officials and that the audits and recounts (while discovering some issues, granted) were close enough to not have changed the outcome. Did enough people not review their ballots to see that the system had switched their vote? Or was there a bigger effort to swap fake ballots for real ones to make sure that everything matched? Has anyone alleged that votes for senator were changed? I mean since the dems didn't win either race, it would seem that maybe they weren't a target? Odd, given the need to retake the senate and the efforts to unseat trump, but maybe neither seat was victim and not enough people wanted either GOP senator to win outright?</p><p></p><p>I did see where powell got her request for a TRO expedited, so maybe we will see legal movement on that front soon.</p><p></p><p>Does anyone know if one of the deep red states that uses the DVS machines has done any audits of them yet? Or maybe a state like Florida since it's often viewed as a battleground state but went for Trump without much hoopla. Seems like it would have been a great target for fraud and its machines could shed some light on the software.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donner, post: 3470730, member: 277"] Perhaps you're referring to a different case, which i might not be aware of, but an out of state tags issue has reached at least one judge. If you are referring to something else, i'd appreciate if you could post a link to read more about the driver who confirmed these things because i'm not aware of the case. With regards to at least one case regarding 'out of state tags', though, i know it has already been before a judge and the case went no where. In that instance it was because both sides were allowed to present testimony and the person who gave the sworn testimony was shown to have not been in the position to know the whole of the situation. The person wasn't lying about what they saw, mind you. But when given the chance to view both sides of the situation, the election official confirmed that what the person saw was right and noted that the trucks they rented to haul the ballots did in fact have out of state tags. A person can swear under oath about things they saw, be telling the truth and still be wrong about the implications. That is one reason why pointing to 'sworn affidavits' can contribute to supporting the narrative but also might not indicate what people think they do. As for the stuff about remote manipulation and the like, i might have missed it too (it's a busy work time, but down from 'insane' because of covid). Has there been any direct evidence given that showed it happened? I don't think anyone that i've seen has said it couldn't happen, but could and did are different things (as everyone already knows, i'm sure). Yes, we've been told there are lots of things to point towards manipulation, corruption and the the like, but we also know that the system created a printed copy of the ballot, which was then given to election officials and that the audits and recounts (while discovering some issues, granted) were close enough to not have changed the outcome. Did enough people not review their ballots to see that the system had switched their vote? Or was there a bigger effort to swap fake ballots for real ones to make sure that everything matched? Has anyone alleged that votes for senator were changed? I mean since the dems didn't win either race, it would seem that maybe they weren't a target? Odd, given the need to retake the senate and the efforts to unseat trump, but maybe neither seat was victim and not enough people wanted either GOP senator to win outright? I did see where powell got her request for a TRO expedited, so maybe we will see legal movement on that front soon. Does anyone know if one of the deep red states that uses the DVS machines has done any audits of them yet? Or maybe a state like Florida since it's often viewed as a battleground state but went for Trump without much hoopla. Seems like it would have been a great target for fraud and its machines could shed some light on the software. [/QUOTE]
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