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USPSA Cheating scandal

Discussion in 'Shooting Chat' started by loudshirt, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. BadgeBunny

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    :shocked: Well, dang ... that's too bad ... :nolike: That was one of the better matches that we would hit ... I gotta say I miss doing a match somewhere every weekend ... :( I really enjoyed the weekends we had two to hit ... one here in OKC and one down in Wichita Falls ... I was sure a pooped puppy though! :rotflmao:
     
  2. Glocktogo

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    From what I've seen personally, the new majority owners are MUCH easier to work with from a match standpoint.
     
  3. lkothe

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    I wouldn't mind shooting a USPSA a time or two just cuz. I do enjoy shooting the IDPA shoots at OC, USSA and Pryor, I'm not very accurate but I make up for it by being slow. ;)
    The USPSA scandal is a pisser, it goes to show you there will be cheating any time there is competition. If you have to win that bad, what good does it do you if you don't do it honestly.

    3gun looks like fun also but could get EXPENSIVE! !

    DNO
     
  4. technetium-99m

    technetium-99m Sharpshooter

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    They have an uphill battle if they want to hold them again. It really left a bad taste in the central OK USPSA shooters' mouths. I've never seen a whole match kicked off a range before.
     
  5. dennishoddy

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    Come shoot with us for a USPSA match at Ponca City Rifle and Pistol Club! http://poncarpc.org/

    We shoot USPSA on the second Saturday of the month and steel challenge on the 4th Saturday.
     
  6. lkothe

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    I dunno DH, means I have remember some more rules. :)
    About brain dead from all the rules IDPA has.

    :wave:
     
  7. dennishoddy

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    USPSA, not as many rules as IDPA. Just a different format during matches. Both great disciplines to shoot

    Tell me about your gun, and I can tell you what division you might shoot.
     
  8. lkothe

    lkothe Sharpshooter

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    M&P 9 Pro or 1911
    both are bone stock
     
  9. dennishoddy

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    My notes: I would shoot limited minor with the M&P, and without knowing your caliber in the 1911, shoot production or limited 10.

    Copyied from RBGC:

    Single Stack: Bring out your 1911 and shoot skinny style with us. This division caters to the 1911 purist and thus requires barrel bushings for barrels over 4.25". Major Power Factor (higher recoiling rounds that score more points per hit on a target) requires a minimum of .40 caliber ammunition, but most guns in this division are chambered in good old .45ACP. No race holsters allowed in this division and the holster and mag pouches must be carried behind your hip bones. Since most 1911 mags are 8 rounders or less, this division will require more magazines to shoot the longer 30+ round courses so plan accordingly with extra magazines and magazine pouches. Iron sights of the notch and post design only for this divisions so nothing electronic and no scopes for your sighting. No compensators or ported barrels allowed as this is a stock and not a race division. The gun (with an unloaded magazine inserted) must be able to fit within a box of dimensions 8.938" x 6" x 1.625".



    Production: First rule of production is no single action handguns. This is the place for the plastic fantastic (Glock, XD, M&P etc), Beretta, Smith&Wesson, Ruger, Sig Sauer and similar handguns that are the typical gun you can purchase at gun stores across America. They are all striker fired, double action only, or double action first pull and single action subsequent in design. DA/SA pistols must start hammer down. All scoring for this division is scored using Minor Power Factor (lighter recoiling ammunition that scores less for each hit on a target) so the vast majority of pistols are chambered in 9x19 for the reduced recoil and the economy of the ammunition. Note that .38 or 9x19 caliber is the minimum caliber required for this division so no rimfires, .380 or .25 handguns are allowed. Magazines are limited to 10 rounds but you may start the stage with a round in the chamber and 10 in the magazine. The round limitation means that you will usually be good with 4 or 5 magazines and at least 4 magazine pouches on your belt. Like the Single Stack division, no race holsters are allowed and both holster and all mag pouches must be carried behind your hip bones. This is a stock division so iron sights of the notch and post design only; nothing electronic and no scopes for your sighting. No compensators or ported barrels allowed so be aware that ported barrels on Glock "C" pistols aren't allowed. Factory available slide ports are allowed so guns like the Glock 34/35 are allowed. There is a published list of approved pistols at the www.USPSA.org website in the "Match Rules" section. The gun (with an unloaded magazine inserted) must be able to fit within a box of dimensions 8.938" x 6" x 1.625".


    Limited & Limited-10: Now we really start getting into the race ready competition guns with these divisions. The only difference between the two is that Limited-10 requires all magazines be limited to 10 rounds. This makes the division neutral for those states with legal limitations for magazine capacity so they too can run in this division. Limited division is about pushing the envelope so high capacity handguns dominate this division as the magazine limitations are due to length (140mm) so as many rounds as you can reliably get into your mags is how many you can shoot. These divisions are iron sight only, so notch and post design sights with no electronic sighting or scopes usable. There is no weight or size restriction on this division. While barrel porting and compensators are not allowed, slides can be ported or lightened through machining and other methods. .40 caliber ammunition is the minimum required to make Major Power Factor (higher recoiling rounds that score more points per hit on a target) and thusly .40SW is the dominant chambering on all Limited and Limited-10 handguns to gain this advantage. Race holsters and magazine pouches are allowed and can be placed anywhere on the competitor's gun belt. While you will still see Para Ordinance and some plastic fantastic (Glock G35) pistols in this division, it is dominated by custom STI and SVI double-stack, high capacity framed pistols. This is the realm of the race gun folks and these things are a blast to shoot, let me tell you.
     
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    Thanks...looks like more mags and mag holsters in my future if I wanna try USPSA. Think I probably got enough gear to shoot my 1911 .45 at present. I better start loading some .45 to bring to the dance. :)
     

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