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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 4209581" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>It is Israel, and Western influence in the region, social, political and religious. It's all of those things, not just one. Their sociopolitical ideology is just as expansionist as our own, going back to the Rashidun Caliphate beginning in 632CE. </p><p></p><p>Long running conflicts such as these ebb and flow. Iran is currently in an ebb, but as the West decays and weakens, they flow back into that void. Iran has through their proxies and some very limited direct action, committed over 200 attacks since October 7th. </p><p></p><p>If we withdrew from the region because of these attacks, then Israel would fall. Soon thereafter, unaligned nations would be required to pay Iran for the privilege of transit through the Gulf of Aden unmolested. Eventually there would be direct attacks on western societies in the West. </p><p></p><p>Thus is the nature of such things. Pretending it isn't so, is folly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 4209581, member: 1132"] It is Israel, and Western influence in the region, social, political and religious. It's all of those things, not just one. Their sociopolitical ideology is just as expansionist as our own, going back to the Rashidun Caliphate beginning in 632CE. Long running conflicts such as these ebb and flow. Iran is currently in an ebb, but as the West decays and weakens, they flow back into that void. Iran has through their proxies and some very limited direct action, committed over 200 attacks since October 7th. If we withdrew from the region because of these attacks, then Israel would fall. Soon thereafter, unaligned nations would be required to pay Iran for the privilege of transit through the Gulf of Aden unmolested. Eventually there would be direct attacks on western societies in the West. Thus is the nature of such things. Pretending it isn't so, is folly. [/QUOTE]
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