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<blockquote data-quote="tweetr" data-source="post: 3958945" data-attributes="member: 5183"><p>I insist on a principle that lives in black and white in the Fourth Amendment. That still is no reason to be rude.</p><p></p><p>It is entertaining to see you so worked up over something that affects you not in the slightest. Why do you care what I believe? You don't know me. You don't know my son. You don't know the facts of this case because you were not there. Any dispute you wish to raise over the facts of the case is necessarily gratuitous. The only, the singular rational response, assuming you wish to respond at all, is something like:</p><p>"If the facts of the case are as you represent them, then my opinion is [X]."</p><p>And nothing else, for anything else is necessarily gratuitous and almost certainly emotionally driven.</p><p>And that's all I invited anyway! Given these facts as I described them, what is your opinion? Give your opinion, and whether I agree or disagree, I appreciate your input.</p><p></p><p>Where have I been anything but courteous in soliciting and responding to opinions? Why the rudely ad hominem on your part?</p><p></p><p>And that is the revealing part. There simply is no reason for you to care, emotionally care, whether I agree with you. Who cares? But if for some odd reason you take offense at failing to convince me of your opinion (and I really can't conceive why) then appealing gratuitously and emotionally ad hominem simply will have the opposite effect!</p><p></p><p>There is another approach, you know. If you don't like the way the conversation is going you can merely go on about your day and do something else. Nobody forces you to read a thread you don't like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tweetr, post: 3958945, member: 5183"] I insist on a principle that lives in black and white in the Fourth Amendment. That still is no reason to be rude. It is entertaining to see you so worked up over something that affects you not in the slightest. Why do you care what I believe? You don't know me. You don't know my son. You don't know the facts of this case because you were not there. Any dispute you wish to raise over the facts of the case is necessarily gratuitous. The only, the singular rational response, assuming you wish to respond at all, is something like: "If the facts of the case are as you represent them, then my opinion is [X]." And nothing else, for anything else is necessarily gratuitous and almost certainly emotionally driven. And that's all I invited anyway! Given these facts as I described them, what is your opinion? Give your opinion, and whether I agree or disagree, I appreciate your input. Where have I been anything but courteous in soliciting and responding to opinions? Why the rudely ad hominem on your part? And that is the revealing part. There simply is no reason for you to care, emotionally care, whether I agree with you. Who cares? But if for some odd reason you take offense at failing to convince me of your opinion (and I really can't conceive why) then appealing gratuitously and emotionally ad hominem simply will have the opposite effect! There is another approach, you know. If you don't like the way the conversation is going you can merely go on about your day and do something else. Nobody forces you to read a thread you don't like. [/QUOTE]
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