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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 4032386" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>i'd like to think what you say is correct, because of course it is the law enforcement that are in the wrong that get the most attention.</p><p></p><p> I don't have any personal experience nor do i have any close friends or relatives who are in law enforcement, so i don't have the full picture. I can only give an opinion based on my layman's observation, which is a very limited viewpoint..</p><p></p><p>i do want to acknowledge that law enforcement is by the nature of it a very dangerous and unpredictable job. an older, wiser gentleman once told me that when you become a law enforcement officer it sort of separates you from the rest of society. Who you associate with, who associates with you...It also changes your outlook on people. You start viewing people in a different light as a result of constant contact with the darker elements of society. </p><p></p><p>It's true that politicians make the law, not the police, but sometimes how it is interpreted and applied by law enforcement and the judiciary is not necessarily even keeled. A law is by nature a binary thing, the discretion is up to the officer.</p><p></p><p> So it's not a problem that there is a law that allows seizure of potential drug monies, but it is a problem when the law uses it to enrich their dept at the expense of innocent motorists. </p><p></p><p>it's not an issue that it's a crime to loiter or disturb the peace, it's an issue when police use that discretion to arrest people minding their own business. Or charging people with resisting arrest when they're the ones being overly physically aggressive.</p><p></p><p>what about this ****? </p><p></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]zAOh6YPKMls[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>cops do stuff like this, and they 'investigate' themselves, find no wrongdoing and you can't sue the individual officers because they have ******** immunity protection for what amounts to crimes. </p><p></p><p>there are a lot of cops out there that are good people, no doubt, but the judiciary in this country, and the departments themselves, are too lenient on law enforcement and give them too much benefit of the doubt. there is no oversight in this country. </p><p></p><p>sure, maybe such overt violations are rare, but when they happen to you at the hands of an authority you have no recourse against, it feels particularly offensive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 4032386, member: 17825"] i'd like to think what you say is correct, because of course it is the law enforcement that are in the wrong that get the most attention. I don't have any personal experience nor do i have any close friends or relatives who are in law enforcement, so i don't have the full picture. I can only give an opinion based on my layman's observation, which is a very limited viewpoint.. i do want to acknowledge that law enforcement is by the nature of it a very dangerous and unpredictable job. an older, wiser gentleman once told me that when you become a law enforcement officer it sort of separates you from the rest of society. Who you associate with, who associates with you...It also changes your outlook on people. You start viewing people in a different light as a result of constant contact with the darker elements of society. It's true that politicians make the law, not the police, but sometimes how it is interpreted and applied by law enforcement and the judiciary is not necessarily even keeled. A law is by nature a binary thing, the discretion is up to the officer. So it's not a problem that there is a law that allows seizure of potential drug monies, but it is a problem when the law uses it to enrich their dept at the expense of innocent motorists. it's not an issue that it's a crime to loiter or disturb the peace, it's an issue when police use that discretion to arrest people minding their own business. Or charging people with resisting arrest when they're the ones being overly physically aggressive. what about this ****? [MEDIA=youtube]zAOh6YPKMls[/MEDIA] cops do stuff like this, and they 'investigate' themselves, find no wrongdoing and you can't sue the individual officers because they have ******** immunity protection for what amounts to crimes. there are a lot of cops out there that are good people, no doubt, but the judiciary in this country, and the departments themselves, are too lenient on law enforcement and give them too much benefit of the doubt. there is no oversight in this country. sure, maybe such overt violations are rare, but when they happen to you at the hands of an authority you have no recourse against, it feels particularly offensive. [/QUOTE]
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