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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kwaynem" data-source="post: 4300346" data-attributes="member: 41873"><p>A lot of people like the migs because they are easy to learn and they are handy for the right projects but need to remember the metal has to be clean to get sufficient penetration. I have had people bring me stuff to weld and they say they can’t get it to hold and 90 percent of the time the material being welded was rusty, oily and not cleaned before mig welding and the weld just lays on top</p></blockquote><p></p>