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West Norman shooting yesterday; shooter was CLEET instructor
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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 4251528" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>Stand Your Ground was never intended to protect or apply to someone who:</p><p></p><p>A) Intentionally pulls partially out of the travel lane and stops their vehicle in the road behind another vehicle during a road rage incident</p><p></p><p>B) Intentionally gets out of said vehicle to confront another driver who has gotten out of their vehicle</p><p></p><p>C) Intentionally engages in a verbal and physical altercation with another driver</p><p></p><p>D) Intentionally draws a handgun and shoots another driver after, allegedly, being subjected to a single punch that, according to medical documents, resulted in no detectable injury</p><p></p><p>The judge’s comments about escape were directed to all those points. Kottka was essentially in the wrong as soon as he stopped his car, in the road, and got out with the intent to engage in an argument with another motorist. He had no “right” to be there and voided his right to self defense.</p><p></p><p>Stand your ground isn’t a catch all “if I’m scared I can shoot you”. You still have a duty to avoid confrontation if possible….in the sense that you can’t willingly inject yourself into a bad situation and then claim self defense after the fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 4251528, member: 42"] Stand Your Ground was never intended to protect or apply to someone who: A) Intentionally pulls partially out of the travel lane and stops their vehicle in the road behind another vehicle during a road rage incident B) Intentionally gets out of said vehicle to confront another driver who has gotten out of their vehicle C) Intentionally engages in a verbal and physical altercation with another driver D) Intentionally draws a handgun and shoots another driver after, allegedly, being subjected to a single punch that, according to medical documents, resulted in no detectable injury The judge’s comments about escape were directed to all those points. Kottka was essentially in the wrong as soon as he stopped his car, in the road, and got out with the intent to engage in an argument with another motorist. He had no “right” to be there and voided his right to self defense. Stand your ground isn’t a catch all “if I’m scared I can shoot you”. You still have a duty to avoid confrontation if possible….in the sense that you can’t willingly inject yourself into a bad situation and then claim self defense after the fact. [/QUOTE]
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