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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bigfug" data-source="post: 4251534" data-attributes="member: 4864"><p>Yes, but that decision was based on that case and its merits, and every case has its own merits and circumstances. Laws don't tend to be absolute, or shouldn't be in my belief, but I'm not an attorney, J just stayed at a Holiday Inn. So a different case, different evidence/situation may not have the same result. Whether the guy has a weapon or not, if he grabs a kid, or someone walking up to the car, or does something to indicate he's going to do great bodily harm to that person, and a person removes themselves from the car to prevent that, it falls under SYG. I honestly hate discussing legal stuff because if any one thing changes, you're looking at a whole different ball game. When dealing with self defense, everything is a presumption that can be overturned by evidence, and when dealing with the law, you're dealing with opinion. Granted, the Judge's or Judges', DA/AG's and/or juries' opinion is what ultimately matters in the end. Either way, its not a situation I ever want to be in. Whether someone is right or wrong in a situation like that, ultimately, no one wins in the long run. The legal battle, sleepless nights, PTSD, trauma, loss of quality of life are horrible. That said, a person should always do what they need to do to make it home safe at night, thats a given, but I wouldnt say that anyone walks away from an SDA situation a "winner".</p></blockquote><p></p>