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<blockquote data-quote="bigfug" data-source="post: 4251860" data-attributes="member: 4864"><p>OK, that part I do enjoy or I wouldnt keep responding lol but the people who get stuck on the one thing and think its an absolute that applies to everything is the part I hate. Their response is always but but but, and just talk themselves in a circle thinking in absolutes and black and white. The what ifs, and how those individual things can change or redirect and be applied such as changing one word I find to be interesting and can enjoy an intellectual discussion among peers like the one we've all had. I agree about it being a living thing. I describe it, well most things really, as organic, always changing and evolving based on the 'environment'. I do enjoy trying to decipher and interpret law, and how one word, or the context in which a word is used can absolutely change the outcome. By word of law is something I enjoy pointing out when people try to interpret something. I have to deal with it when dealing with laws and policies at work. There are very specific statutes and policies we have to follow, and its easy to shut down or change the direction of a request or project when I point this out. It's all opinion, inference, assumption, and application ultimateIy that has to have a logic reason, not just because (I) this says so and therefore it must be so. I actually considered, and still do, going back to school and getting my law degree since the kids have gotten older.</p><p></p><p>ETA, this case will probably set new precedent and case law. Reminds me of Jerome Ersland. Had Jerome not chased the kid out, and come back to finish the job (or ran his mouth) he would have probably walked with justified self defense. If this guy had stayed in the car, and the victim tried to open the door, attacked him through the window, he would be at home with none of this hanging over him. Lot of bad decisions made. Sometimes you just have to "lose" to win and walk away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigfug, post: 4251860, member: 4864"] OK, that part I do enjoy or I wouldnt keep responding lol but the people who get stuck on the one thing and think its an absolute that applies to everything is the part I hate. Their response is always but but but, and just talk themselves in a circle thinking in absolutes and black and white. The what ifs, and how those individual things can change or redirect and be applied such as changing one word I find to be interesting and can enjoy an intellectual discussion among peers like the one we've all had. I agree about it being a living thing. I describe it, well most things really, as organic, always changing and evolving based on the 'environment'. I do enjoy trying to decipher and interpret law, and how one word, or the context in which a word is used can absolutely change the outcome. By word of law is something I enjoy pointing out when people try to interpret something. I have to deal with it when dealing with laws and policies at work. There are very specific statutes and policies we have to follow, and its easy to shut down or change the direction of a request or project when I point this out. It's all opinion, inference, assumption, and application ultimateIy that has to have a logic reason, not just because (I) this says so and therefore it must be so. I actually considered, and still do, going back to school and getting my law degree since the kids have gotten older. ETA, this case will probably set new precedent and case law. Reminds me of Jerome Ersland. Had Jerome not chased the kid out, and come back to finish the job (or ran his mouth) he would have probably walked with justified self defense. If this guy had stayed in the car, and the victim tried to open the door, attacked him through the window, he would be at home with none of this hanging over him. Lot of bad decisions made. Sometimes you just have to "lose" to win and walk away. [/QUOTE]
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