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<blockquote data-quote="diggler1833" data-source="post: 4011114" data-attributes="member: 48072">1.&nbsp; Your accuracy isn&#039;t crap, so you&#039;re on the right track and don&#039;t need to get yourself worked up.&nbsp; You&#039;ll get to where you want to be once you iron out your processes.2.&nbsp; How much do you shoot?&nbsp;&nbsp; Being a 1 MOA shooter (especially under conditions) isn&#039;t a bad thing.&nbsp; Being a consistent 1/2 MOA capable shooter requires a lot of practice and skill.&nbsp; There&#039;s a reason why dudes cherry pick groups to show on the internet...and my money is that if you watched them shoot that same load on a 5x5, you&#039;d see a lot more groups that had opened up.3.&nbsp; I am looking at your rifle.&nbsp; It is certainly a very nice setup.&nbsp; Preferred pre-fits generally shoot pretty well...but they are a &quot;bolt-and-go&quot; option for guys who aren&#039;t interested in benchrest shooting or accuracy.&nbsp; I would say 1/2 - 3/4 MOA is going to be your happy spot with that setup.&nbsp; * Yes you will see guys that claim 1/4 minute groups with your exact setup...but please refer back to the last part of #2.4.&nbsp; Like said above: handloading is about consistency.&nbsp; You can slam together ammo that is absolutely MOA capable.&nbsp; Or you can either meticulously assemble ammo with less expensive equipment...or do it quickly on $5K&#039;s worth of equipment.5.&nbsp; We&#039;re all going to tell you to seat bullets at different depths, or play with different charge weights...and that is because those things work.&nbsp; How many different powders have you used?&nbsp; What primers have you used?&nbsp; How are you measuring seating depth (hopefully base yo ogive)?&nbsp; At this point a chronograph will let you know when you hit the velocity you want...an then I&#039;d adjust seating depth from there to get your groups where you want to be.6.&nbsp; ARs are more difficult to shoot accurately than bolt guns.Best of luck on your journey.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="diggler1833, post: 4011114, member: 48072"] 1. Your accuracy isn't crap, so you're on the right track and don't need to get yourself worked up. You'll get to where you want to be once you iron out your processes. 2. How much do you shoot? Being a 1 MOA shooter (especially under conditions) isn't a bad thing. Being a consistent 1/2 MOA capable shooter requires a lot of practice and skill. There's a reason why dudes cherry pick groups to show on the internet...and my money is that if you watched them shoot that same load on a 5x5, you'd see a lot more groups that had opened up. 3. I am looking at your rifle. It is certainly a very nice setup. Preferred pre-fits generally shoot pretty well...but they are a "bolt-and-go" option for guys who aren't interested in benchrest shooting or accuracy. I would say 1/2 - 3/4 MOA is going to be your happy spot with that setup. * Yes you will see guys that claim 1/4 minute groups with your exact setup...but please refer back to the last part of #2. 4. Like said above: handloading is about consistency. You can slam together ammo that is absolutely MOA capable. Or you can either meticulously assemble ammo with less expensive equipment...or do it quickly on $5K's worth of equipment. 5. We're all going to tell you to seat bullets at different depths, or play with different charge weights...and that is because those things work. How many different powders have you used? What primers have you used? How are you measuring seating depth (hopefully base yo ogive)? At this point a chronograph will let you know when you hit the velocity you want...an then I'd adjust seating depth from there to get your groups where you want to be. 6. ARs are more difficult to shoot accurately than bolt guns. Best of luck on your journey. [/QUOTE]

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