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<blockquote data-quote="Cowcatcher" data-source="post: 3082313" data-attributes="member: 43171"><p>I guess torque is a factor. I don&#039;t go by the numbers too much. I think they are mostly bs honestly. Numbers sell trucks I guess. Firsthand experience is tough to beat. Back in the day (not that long ago) Dad, brother and I stocked dude ranches with geldings in SW Colorado. We had a 250k mile 1990 460 that we drug a 32&#039; trailer and 15 geldings over Wolf Creek Pass with several times a year. It pulled it good. Not great, not bad it just pulled it. We upgraded to a 95 cummins and thought we were unstoppable then. After running some of these modern gassers around Oklahoma I can say that&#039;d it&#039;d be pretty tough to get me to tackle WC pass in one compared to what I&#039;ve pulled with em around here. The 5.7 hemi I currently use as a feedtruck reads 5.6mpg on the dash and pulls like crap. The other hand here runs a 6.0 vortec and it reads 5.8mpg and pulls like crap too. The modern trucks have nicer interiors but that&#039;s about it. I don&#039;t even wanna get started on the joke called &quot;traction control&quot; in these trucks or push button 4x4. That crap helps you get stuck.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Cowcatcher, post: 3082313, member: 43171"] I guess torque is a factor. I don't go by the numbers too much. I think they are mostly bs honestly. Numbers sell trucks I guess. Firsthand experience is tough to beat. Back in the day (not that long ago) Dad, brother and I stocked dude ranches with geldings in SW Colorado. We had a 250k mile 1990 460 that we drug a 32' trailer and 15 geldings over Wolf Creek Pass with several times a year. It pulled it good. Not great, not bad it just pulled it. We upgraded to a 95 cummins and thought we were unstoppable then. After running some of these modern gassers around Oklahoma I can say that'd it'd be pretty tough to get me to tackle WC pass in one compared to what I've pulled with em around here. The 5.7 hemi I currently use as a feedtruck reads 5.6mpg on the dash and pulls like crap. The other hand here runs a 6.0 vortec and it reads 5.8mpg and pulls like crap too. The modern trucks have nicer interiors but that's about it. I don't even wanna get started on the joke called "traction control" in these trucks or push button 4x4. That crap helps you get stuck. [/QUOTE]

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