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<blockquote data-quote="trade_sniper" data-source="post: 45931" data-attributes="member: 640"><p>After reading this entire thread, I liked the idea of the lawyer having a card with notes on it. I may not agree with his message, but having a card with notes on it would be very handy, especially after a traumatic event such as what has been discussed here. You definitely will be under a tremendous amount of stress and may not be thinking clearly.</p><p></p><p>So, I read through the entire thread, plagiarized several posts and came up with a word document that could be printed out, laminated and carried in your wallet near your CCL. I'm attaching the doc file to this post and you can modify or use as necessary. THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. THIS IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. I AM NOT A LAWYER, IN FACT I CAN BARELY SPELL THE WORD LAW. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.</p><p></p><p>I formatted the document to fit the size of a credit card or drivers license, once laminated (3.375" x 2.125"), just cut it around the outline provided. You may just want to print it on a regular, single sheet of paper, then cut it out and have it laminated or whatever.</p><p></p><p>Basically it says the following:</p><p></p><p>(front of card):</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">Post Self-Defense Procedures:</span></strong></p><p><strong>1.</strong> Ensure primary threat is neutralized. Ensure their weapon is out of reach. Inform Officer if you touched the weapon.</p><p></p><p><strong>2.</strong> Ensure there are no other threats, then secure your weapon.</p><p></p><p><strong>3.</strong> Call 911 and say: "There has been a violent incident at *Address*. Please send the Police. My name is *Name* and I am wearing *Clothing Description*."</p><p></p><p><strong>4.</strong> Keep the scene secure until law enforcement arrives. Identify possible witnesses. Ask them not to leave the scene.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>(back side of card):</p><p></p><p><strong>5.</strong> When Officer arrives, tell him: âOfficer, that man there tried to kill me. I feared for my life and I shot him in self-defense. I know you have an investigation to do and I will gladly cooperate and sign any complaints against the man who tried to kill me.â</p><p></p><p><strong>6.</strong> Point out any witnesses to the incident.</p><p></p><p><strong>7.</strong> Say: âOfficer, I am very upset right now, and I do not feel that I can make a statement at this time. Before discussing any of the details of this incident, I'd like to speak to my attorney first and will fully cooperate with your investigation then, after I have composed myself.â Say nothing else until you speak to your attorney.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway, I just thought that I'd like to have something like this with me in case of an unfortunate event such as this and I thought I'd share it.</p><p></p><p>I too would like to know the name of a good defense attorney in Tulsa who has experience defending self-defense cases, or at least defending ACTUAL innocent people. I would like to write his number in the margins of this card before I laminate it. There just wasn't enough room for another line on the card and still allow the printer to print within its margins or I would have added a line for this.</p><p></p><p>Now, will having this card in my possession present any problems? Surely not some type of premeditation? I carry a gun 'just in case', same for having the card. Just want to make sure I'm not putting myself in a worse situation. What are your thoughts Mike?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trade_sniper, post: 45931, member: 640"] After reading this entire thread, I liked the idea of the lawyer having a card with notes on it. I may not agree with his message, but having a card with notes on it would be very handy, especially after a traumatic event such as what has been discussed here. You definitely will be under a tremendous amount of stress and may not be thinking clearly. So, I read through the entire thread, plagiarized several posts and came up with a word document that could be printed out, laminated and carried in your wallet near your CCL. I'm attaching the doc file to this post and you can modify or use as necessary. THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. THIS IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. I AM NOT A LAWYER, IN FACT I CAN BARELY SPELL THE WORD LAW. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. I formatted the document to fit the size of a credit card or drivers license, once laminated (3.375" x 2.125"), just cut it around the outline provided. You may just want to print it on a regular, single sheet of paper, then cut it out and have it laminated or whatever. Basically it says the following: (front of card): [b][SIZE="5"]Post Self-Defense Procedures:[/SIZE][/b] [b]1.[/b] Ensure primary threat is neutralized. Ensure their weapon is out of reach. Inform Officer if you touched the weapon. [b]2.[/b] Ensure there are no other threats, then secure your weapon. [b]3.[/b] Call 911 and say: "There has been a violent incident at *Address*. Please send the Police. My name is *Name* and I am wearing *Clothing Description*." [b]4.[/b] Keep the scene secure until law enforcement arrives. Identify possible witnesses. Ask them not to leave the scene. (back side of card): [b]5.[/b] When Officer arrives, tell him: âOfficer, that man there tried to kill me. I feared for my life and I shot him in self-defense. I know you have an investigation to do and I will gladly cooperate and sign any complaints against the man who tried to kill me.â [b]6.[/b] Point out any witnesses to the incident. [b]7.[/b] Say: âOfficer, I am very upset right now, and I do not feel that I can make a statement at this time. Before discussing any of the details of this incident, I'd like to speak to my attorney first and will fully cooperate with your investigation then, after I have composed myself.â Say nothing else until you speak to your attorney. Anyway, I just thought that I'd like to have something like this with me in case of an unfortunate event such as this and I thought I'd share it. I too would like to know the name of a good defense attorney in Tulsa who has experience defending self-defense cases, or at least defending ACTUAL innocent people. I would like to write his number in the margins of this card before I laminate it. There just wasn't enough room for another line on the card and still allow the printer to print within its margins or I would have added a line for this. Now, will having this card in my possession present any problems? Surely not some type of premeditation? I carry a gun 'just in case', same for having the card. Just want to make sure I'm not putting myself in a worse situation. What are your thoughts Mike? [/QUOTE]
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