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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mugsy" data-source="post: 2086340" data-attributes="member: 18914">It might have something to do with NCLB but it isn't really that likely.  I remember that when I was in grade school this same basic argument was raging across various school districts - always the same basic framework - our kids aren't proficient in math/science but the schools are spending money on art and shop classes (of course shop classes or, God forbid, industrial arts classes have been hit far worse than conventional art).Maybe we need to accept that unless we are willing to treat kids like they do in Japan or China - cogs in school wheels who get ram-fed data only about 10-15% of our students have both natural inclination and interest in math science and that's the way it will stay until they see a strong economic motivation to study hard and that may take some serious life lessons to instill.</blockquote>