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<blockquote data-quote="diggler1833" data-source="post: 3963481" data-attributes="member: 48072">My head hurts more now.&nbsp; Thanks.You think varmint bullets (or birdshot) are going to penetrate adequately under the majority of situations?&nbsp; Especially when you have to go through an arm because they&#039;re pointing a gun at you?&nbsp; Big time ammo companies with big time contracts that rely on - you guessed it - big time results seem to somehow separate these varmint bullets into their own category...and it&#039;s always marketed at the crowd afraid of overpenetration.&nbsp; If it worked better than other designs at reaching the vitals under any and all shot angles, then we&#039;d never see a bonded soft point/TSX etc...But let&#039;s take a look at how these bullets do on bare gel and gel after passing through a barrier such as a massive 3/4&quot; of plywood, or the impenetrable 1/16&quot; sheet metal:[ATTACH=full]346295[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]346296[/ATTACH]Hmmmm...looks a little short of FBI/IWBA minimal penetration requirements to me...under ANY and ALL circumstances.We aren&#039;t snipers.&nbsp; We don&#039;t get to pick our ideal target angle when someone is taking a knife or gun to your loved one.Not everyone is as ready to quit being &#039;bad&#039; from a nasty wound as quickly a normal, sane person who isn&#039;t on drugs is.&nbsp; So why limit yourself to a projectile(s) designed and marketed for killing something 1/50th the size of a man?&nbsp; There&#039;s a reason why I don&#039;t go wading into big boars at night loaded down with V-MAX bullets.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="diggler1833, post: 3963481, member: 48072"] My head hurts more now. Thanks. You think varmint bullets (or birdshot) are going to penetrate adequately under the majority of situations? Especially when you have to go through an arm because they're pointing a gun at you? Big time ammo companies with big time contracts that rely on - you guessed it - big time results seem to somehow separate these varmint bullets into their own category...and it's always marketed at the crowd afraid of overpenetration. If it worked better than other designs at reaching the vitals under any and all shot angles, then we'd never see a bonded soft point/TSX etc... But let's take a look at how these bullets do on bare gel and gel after passing through a barrier such as a massive 3/4" of plywood, or the impenetrable 1/16" sheet metal: [ATTACH type="full"]346295[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]346296[/ATTACH] Hmmmm...looks a little short of FBI/IWBA minimal penetration requirements to me...under ANY and ALL circumstances. We aren't snipers. We don't get to pick our ideal target angle when someone is taking a knife or gun to your loved one. Not everyone is as ready to quit being 'bad' from a nasty wound as quickly a normal, sane person who isn't on drugs is. So why limit yourself to a projectile(s) designed and marketed for killing something 1/50th the size of a man? There's a reason why I don't go wading into big boars at night loaded down with V-MAX bullets. [/QUOTE]

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