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<blockquote data-quote="Nraman" data-source="post: 999048" data-attributes="member: 10001"><p>SAAMI specs apply to US made guns. European made guns such as Glock or Beretta were made to shoot the original 9X19 which is what we call NATO or +P+. An S&W pistol is designed for SAAMI specs, will not work with NATO/European spec ammo, a Glock works better with the hot stuff. Less chance of limp wristing. Winchester Ranger 115gr JHP +P+ is such a round. Approx 1350fps makes it a good performer. It will not wear out a Sig, Glock, Beretta, they were designed for it.</p><p>A few years back Vitavouori had two sets of reloading data, the regular and "metric" if you converted the 9mm data to US equivalent, it was easy to see that the loads and velocities were higher. Recent metric data have been lowered to match US data. Liability issues most likely.</p><p>If you have a European 9mm and reload for it using US data you don't have to worry too much about overloads, within reason. Hot reloads however can cause another problem. Hot gases leaking around the primer pocket can cause erosion on the breach face.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nraman, post: 999048, member: 10001"] SAAMI specs apply to US made guns. European made guns such as Glock or Beretta were made to shoot the original 9X19 which is what we call NATO or +P+. An S&W pistol is designed for SAAMI specs, will not work with NATO/European spec ammo, a Glock works better with the hot stuff. Less chance of limp wristing. Winchester Ranger 115gr JHP +P+ is such a round. Approx 1350fps makes it a good performer. It will not wear out a Sig, Glock, Beretta, they were designed for it. A few years back Vitavouori had two sets of reloading data, the regular and "metric" if you converted the 9mm data to US equivalent, it was easy to see that the loads and velocities were higher. Recent metric data have been lowered to match US data. Liability issues most likely. If you have a European 9mm and reload for it using US data you don't have to worry too much about overloads, within reason. Hot reloads however can cause another problem. Hot gases leaking around the primer pocket can cause erosion on the breach face. [/QUOTE]
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