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What is the state law on producing I.D. on demand from law enforcement
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<blockquote data-quote="kingfish" data-source="post: 4107020" data-attributes="member: 50496"><p>My wife was telling me an interesting story told to here by a shopkeeper when in his store yesterday. He said he was out riding his bike the night before and was stopped by TPD for not having proper lighting on the bike. During the discussion he was asked for his ID and he told the officer he did not think he needed one when riding his bike. The officer then asked him for his name and his response was something like I'm within my rights not to have to tell you that. Being I was hearing this third hand so there may have been more to the exchange, but the end of the story was he was arrested and spent a night in lockup. That got me to wondering exactly what the law is.</p><p>Now in my personal opinion, this guy was an idiot for responding this way. I highly suspect he is the strong progressive type with little respect for law enforcement. Had it been me I would have respectfully informed the officer I was ignorant of the lighting laws for bicycles. When asked for ID I would have then said I'm sorry but I didn't think I would need to carry my wallet when riding my bike. I would have volunteered my name and address and asked the officer if he wished to follow me home I would produce my ID for him. I suspect at that point the officer would let him go on his way with a warning or at most a citation for improper lighting.</p><p>I don't understand confrontational attitudes when dealing with LEOs. Has it ever gone well where the officer said oh I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to bother you. I can see you are having a bad day so you can go about your business. Even if you are certain you are in the right, the time for that discussion is best saved for the next day with the shift supervisor. If he is unsympathetic to your complaint, you can contact a lawyer if you really want to press it that hard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kingfish, post: 4107020, member: 50496"] My wife was telling me an interesting story told to here by a shopkeeper when in his store yesterday. He said he was out riding his bike the night before and was stopped by TPD for not having proper lighting on the bike. During the discussion he was asked for his ID and he told the officer he did not think he needed one when riding his bike. The officer then asked him for his name and his response was something like I'm within my rights not to have to tell you that. Being I was hearing this third hand so there may have been more to the exchange, but the end of the story was he was arrested and spent a night in lockup. That got me to wondering exactly what the law is. Now in my personal opinion, this guy was an idiot for responding this way. I highly suspect he is the strong progressive type with little respect for law enforcement. Had it been me I would have respectfully informed the officer I was ignorant of the lighting laws for bicycles. When asked for ID I would have then said I'm sorry but I didn't think I would need to carry my wallet when riding my bike. I would have volunteered my name and address and asked the officer if he wished to follow me home I would produce my ID for him. I suspect at that point the officer would let him go on his way with a warning or at most a citation for improper lighting. I don't understand confrontational attitudes when dealing with LEOs. Has it ever gone well where the officer said oh I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to bother you. I can see you are having a bad day so you can go about your business. Even if you are certain you are in the right, the time for that discussion is best saved for the next day with the shift supervisor. If he is unsympathetic to your complaint, you can contact a lawyer if you really want to press it that hard. [/QUOTE]
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