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<blockquote data-quote="C_Hallbert" data-source="post: 4371721" data-attributes="member: 42957"><p>Water Fowl Hunting is a very serious preoccupation and choosing the correct weapons and ammunition is equally as important as understanding its importance as well as the facts regarding its significance in relation to man’s continued survival. Water Foel hunting is conventially referred to as a shooting sport that belongs to the time of year when the cooling climate, shorter days and increasing darkness alerts even the most inattentive observer that a change is coming. And it’s the time of year when perceptible changes in temperature and the shorter days also awakens vestigial memories in those few among us whose primordial instincts alert them that something ominous will soon be approaching from the skies in the North. These men, boys, and very few women are the unassuming heroes who know it is time to prepare their weapons, equipment and their spirits for the hellish conflict soon to come. </p><p></p><p>It shouldn’t be forgotten that the various species of waterfowl are among the few remaining members left from the dinosaurs; and they still dwell among us today. Their tenacity and their will to survive should be accepted as understood. In fact, they are also driven by something far more insidious. </p><p></p><p>Based sheerly on anecdotal evidence, I believe waterfowl numbers have greatly diminished during my lifetime. I remember huge flocks of ducks, long ‘V’s of Greater and Lesser Canadian Geese, Brant and Snow Geese in the morning skies as I trudged though enormous snow drifts and forded rushing steams from snowmelt in the streets in Levittown, NY as I walked to school. Memories of their chilling calls, threatening and ridiculing us from above, still echo in my mind. </p><p></p><p>These were dangerous times, when children were’t coddled, spoiled and pampered as if they were expensive pets. Adults projected the impression that, if we were lost, kidnapped or killed by accident, they could easily make more of us. Insolence, disobedience, lying and bad behavior resulted in severe consequences in our homes, schools and courts; and we understood it implicitly. The threats and antagonism coming from above reinforced the reality that children faced during that time. </p><p></p><p>Getting back to the flying dinosaurs…..</p><p>The decrease in water fowl numbers must certainly be the results of intentional large scale tactics which have drained swampland, decreased agricultural production of corn and grains on which waterfowl forage and must result from the tactical releases of insecticides, herbicides and industrial waste in the environments where they breed and spend the warm months planning Autumn’s bloodthirsty campaigns and raids against their arbitrarily chosen human adversaries. </p><p></p><p>Don’t feel sympathy for their dwindling numbers because I assure you that, in the depths of their collective consciousness there’s a burning desire not only to survive, but to dominate and attain supremacy over every living thing on our planet. Yes, I wrote ‘our planet’; and it is the sacred duty assumed by our waterfowl hunters to voluntarily battle against these fowl creatures of the air to insure that this planet remains ours. </p><p></p><p>So, as you sit at your table drinking your hot morning coffee before work on cool Fall mornings; when chilling winds, rain and sleet beat at your windows and doors as Winter grows near; or when icy Winter storms with heavy snows and long icicles are hanging from the eaves of your homes; you might give a kind thought and a prayer of thanks for those on guard in the blinds on the marshes, lakes, rivers and fields surrounding the perimeters of our towns and cities. </p><p></p><p>When the faint glow of dawn reveals the clouds it’s the time when the intrepid souls braving the ravages of nature and, with shivering hands, check their equipment and prepare themselves to battle against impossible odds with an age old bloodthirsty enemy bent on their annihilation and intent on wreaking death and destruction on the peaceful towns and cities whose residents are blissfully unaware of the approaching peril they will face if the thin lines of defense are broken. </p><p></p><p>I realize that I may seem to drift away from the intended subject; but I’m an old man who has been there, and even though the subject presented may have been intended to limit the range allowed for answers, in my mind it exploded into a unlimited domain of related subjects from which to draw. That is my defense for the monstrous conundrum of text which I’ve written up to now. So, I’ll conclude my post by answering the specific question posed under this thread. </p><p></p><p>The ammunition and weapons employed in this defense are not only essential to success, but to the survival of those on the battle lines and the innocent people behind the lines. It’s a sad fact that laws regarding the weapons and ammunition allowed greatly limit the selection from which a defender of humankind might choose limiting a person to an absurd (3) Shells in a Shotgun of 10 Gauge or less. Under these restrictions, I’ve found that Ducks can be effectively taken with #4 or #6 Shot and Geese with #2 Shot; but my personal opinion is that there should be no limits restricting bag limits, weapons or munitions as too much is at stake. I also believe that those who wrote and approved the water fowl hunting regulations were either completely ignorant of the facts, or traitorously acting in collusion with the enemy! I will close by stating that these people should be investigated!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="C_Hallbert, post: 4371721, member: 42957"] Water Fowl Hunting is a very serious preoccupation and choosing the correct weapons and ammunition is equally as important as understanding its importance as well as the facts regarding its significance in relation to man’s continued survival. Water Foel hunting is conventially referred to as a shooting sport that belongs to the time of year when the cooling climate, shorter days and increasing darkness alerts even the most inattentive observer that a change is coming. And it’s the time of year when perceptible changes in temperature and the shorter days also awakens vestigial memories in those few among us whose primordial instincts alert them that something ominous will soon be approaching from the skies in the North. These men, boys, and very few women are the unassuming heroes who know it is time to prepare their weapons, equipment and their spirits for the hellish conflict soon to come. It shouldn’t be forgotten that the various species of waterfowl are among the few remaining members left from the dinosaurs; and they still dwell among us today. Their tenacity and their will to survive should be accepted as understood. In fact, they are also driven by something far more insidious. Based sheerly on anecdotal evidence, I believe waterfowl numbers have greatly diminished during my lifetime. I remember huge flocks of ducks, long ‘V’s of Greater and Lesser Canadian Geese, Brant and Snow Geese in the morning skies as I trudged though enormous snow drifts and forded rushing steams from snowmelt in the streets in Levittown, NY as I walked to school. Memories of their chilling calls, threatening and ridiculing us from above, still echo in my mind. These were dangerous times, when children were’t coddled, spoiled and pampered as if they were expensive pets. Adults projected the impression that, if we were lost, kidnapped or killed by accident, they could easily make more of us. Insolence, disobedience, lying and bad behavior resulted in severe consequences in our homes, schools and courts; and we understood it implicitly. The threats and antagonism coming from above reinforced the reality that children faced during that time. Getting back to the flying dinosaurs….. The decrease in water fowl numbers must certainly be the results of intentional large scale tactics which have drained swampland, decreased agricultural production of corn and grains on which waterfowl forage and must result from the tactical releases of insecticides, herbicides and industrial waste in the environments where they breed and spend the warm months planning Autumn’s bloodthirsty campaigns and raids against their arbitrarily chosen human adversaries. Don’t feel sympathy for their dwindling numbers because I assure you that, in the depths of their collective consciousness there’s a burning desire not only to survive, but to dominate and attain supremacy over every living thing on our planet. Yes, I wrote ‘our planet’; and it is the sacred duty assumed by our waterfowl hunters to voluntarily battle against these fowl creatures of the air to insure that this planet remains ours. So, as you sit at your table drinking your hot morning coffee before work on cool Fall mornings; when chilling winds, rain and sleet beat at your windows and doors as Winter grows near; or when icy Winter storms with heavy snows and long icicles are hanging from the eaves of your homes; you might give a kind thought and a prayer of thanks for those on guard in the blinds on the marshes, lakes, rivers and fields surrounding the perimeters of our towns and cities. When the faint glow of dawn reveals the clouds it’s the time when the intrepid souls braving the ravages of nature and, with shivering hands, check their equipment and prepare themselves to battle against impossible odds with an age old bloodthirsty enemy bent on their annihilation and intent on wreaking death and destruction on the peaceful towns and cities whose residents are blissfully unaware of the approaching peril they will face if the thin lines of defense are broken. I realize that I may seem to drift away from the intended subject; but I’m an old man who has been there, and even though the subject presented may have been intended to limit the range allowed for answers, in my mind it exploded into a unlimited domain of related subjects from which to draw. That is my defense for the monstrous conundrum of text which I’ve written up to now. So, I’ll conclude my post by answering the specific question posed under this thread. The ammunition and weapons employed in this defense are not only essential to success, but to the survival of those on the battle lines and the innocent people behind the lines. It’s a sad fact that laws regarding the weapons and ammunition allowed greatly limit the selection from which a defender of humankind might choose limiting a person to an absurd (3) Shells in a Shotgun of 10 Gauge or less. Under these restrictions, I’ve found that Ducks can be effectively taken with #4 or #6 Shot and Geese with #2 Shot; but my personal opinion is that there should be no limits restricting bag limits, weapons or munitions as too much is at stake. I also believe that those who wrote and approved the water fowl hunting regulations were either completely ignorant of the facts, or traitorously acting in collusion with the enemy! I will close by stating that these people should be investigated!!! [/QUOTE]
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