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<blockquote data-quote="D. Hargrove" data-source="post: 2991650" data-attributes="member: 41761"><p>The 1911 to me is a timeless classic that constantly evolves IOT continue to provide the masses with the most. The most beauty, the most 1st gun stories, the most aftermarket accessories, the most conversations, the most personalization possibilities, the most X's on a target, etc... The 1911 holds a place in many a young man's heart, as the Ar15/M4/M16 does today in the same manner. My reflections on a few brands are annotated below. These are just my thoughts and should not be construed as the gospel.</p><p></p><p>Kimber - <strong>a bit expensive, but worth every penny.</strong></p><p>Colt - <strong>a bit expensive, but worth every penny.</strong> (<strong>commercial and US/foreign gov't contract from <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=NvKAJgZrmH-Upwxi2gpxfg%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fhandgun-parts%2Fslide-parts%2Fcaliber-conversion-kits%2F1911-9mm-government-match-grade-parts-kit-sku100023953-104650-198933.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-023-953%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-023-953%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D13412F17150141DE9313C0B9ED1C36C3&DealName=Nighthawk%20Custom%201911%20Government%20Match%20Grade%20Parts%20Kit%20-%201911%209mm%20Government%20Match%20Grade%20Parts%20Kit&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1274.99&SKU=100023953-100023952-10532" target="_blank">1911</a> to present day</strong>)</p><p>Dan Wesson - <strong>a bit expensive, but worth every penny.</strong></p><p>AMT - <strong>FTE/FTF</strong> <strong>cheaper in their day, but still collectable</strong></p><p>Armscor - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>ATI - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Auto Ordnance - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Cabot - <strong>If you got $4500.00 go for it</strong>.</p><p>Caspian (slides and frames only) - <strong>Your smith will love you for this. Create your own custom 1911</strong></p><p>Charles Daly - <strong>They shoot and shoot well</strong></p><p>Cimarron - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Citadel - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Cylinder & Slide - <strong>$2500 might get ya started, but you will not be sorry</strong></p><p>CZ USA - <strong>makes DW now in Texas</strong></p><p>Dan Wesson - <strong>pretty sttep price, but well made</strong></p><p>Ed Brown - <strong>masterpiece 1911s. If you can afford it, do it</strong></p><p>High Standard - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Ithaca (old NY-based company, made <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=nsNwYzdL4Zja7SbB6ARh3g%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fhandguns%2Fsemi-auto%2F1927a-1-deluxe-pistol-10-5in-45-acp-parkerized-50-1-sku100401057-88648-183178.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-057%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-057%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D91A2CD56D2454496892F3881C1FAA643&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1rd%20-%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1149.99&SKU=100401057-100401057-370017" target="_blank">pistols</a> under US gov't contract 1943-1945) <strong>there out there and are classics</strong></p><p>Iver Johnson - <strong>$800-900 guns that are well thought of</strong></p><p>Kongsberg (M/1914 pistol manufactured in Norway under Colt license) <strong>Big bucks, totally for collectors.</strong></p><p>Les Baer - <strong>masterpiece 1911s. If you can afford it, do it</strong></p><p>Llama - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Nighthawk -<strong> some of the finest current 1911s made. Very expensive</strong></p><p>Norinco - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Nowlin - <strong>some of the finest custom 1911s made. Very expensive</strong></p><p>Palmetto State <a href="http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=armory" target="_blank">Armory</a> </p><p>Para Ordnance/Para USA - <strong>double stack 1911s with a wide grip</strong></p><p>Olympic Arms - <strong>yes</strong></p><p>Randall - <strong>good gun if you can find it</strong></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=remington" target="_blank">Remington</a> Arms - <strong>great entry level 1911, easily customized</strong></span></p><p>Rock Island Armory - <strong>Cheaper but most are shooters</strong></p><p>Rock River Arms - <strong>Competition guns for Bullseye shooters</strong></p><p>Ruger - g<strong>reat entry 1911, easily customized</strong></p><p>Sig Sauer - <strong>You pay for the name and the performanc</strong>e</p><p>Singer (US gov't contract, 500 <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=nsNwYzdL4Zja7SbB6ARh3g%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fhandguns%2Fsemi-auto%2F1927a-1-deluxe-pistol-10-5in-45-acp-parkerized-50-1-sku100401057-88648-183178.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-057%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-057%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D91A2CD56D2454496892F3881C1FAA643&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1rd%20-%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1149.99&SKU=100401057-100401057-370017" target="_blank">pistols</a> produced in 1941) <strong>If ya find one, keep it.</strong></p><p>Sistema (aka D.G.F.M.-F.M.A.P.) (M1927 pistol manufactured in Argentina under <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=PWOYA60ATVn3EUGAUXy9Fg%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fhandguns%2Fsemi-auto%2Fxse-government-5in-45-acp-black-8-1-sku100401879-89745-187251.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-879%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-879%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D9E273911E70E42CA956CFB62D57B24EF&DealName=Colt%20Xse%20Government%205in%2045%20Acp%20Black%208%2B1rd%20-%20Xse%20Government%205in%2045%20Acp%20Black%208%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1249.99&SKU=100401879-100401879-370017" target="_blank">Colt</a> license) <strong>commonly about 400-500 bucks</strong></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=QO_z7rpPip2B-_GtYIIjEw%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fm-p10-18in-308-winchester-camo-5-sku100404705-92478-185057.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-404-705%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-404-705%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D5C087261FFE048F1942834A8A15F1603&DealName=Smith%20%26%20Wesson%20M%26P10%2018in%20308%20Winchester%20Camo%205%2B1rd%20-%20M%26P10%2018in%20308%20Winchester%20Camo%205&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1529.99&SKU=100404705-100404705-370018" target="_blank">Smith & Wesson</a> -</span> <strong>the name says it all. </strong></span></p><p>Springfield Armory -<strong> the RO is a great entry gun, unless politics bother ya.</strong></p><p>STI - <strong>Race guns mostly and very high end.</strong></p><p>Taurus - <strong>Lifetime warranty and shoots forever</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="D. Hargrove, post: 2991650, member: 41761"] The 1911 to me is a timeless classic that constantly evolves IOT continue to provide the masses with the most. The most beauty, the most 1st gun stories, the most aftermarket accessories, the most conversations, the most personalization possibilities, the most X's on a target, etc... The 1911 holds a place in many a young man's heart, as the Ar15/M4/M16 does today in the same manner. My reflections on a few brands are annotated below. These are just my thoughts and should not be construed as the gospel. Kimber - [B]a bit expensive, but worth every penny.[/B] Colt - [B]a bit expensive, but worth every penny.[/B] ([B]commercial and US/foreign gov't contract from [URL='http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=NvKAJgZrmH-Upwxi2gpxfg%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fhandgun-parts%2Fslide-parts%2Fcaliber-conversion-kits%2F1911-9mm-government-match-grade-parts-kit-sku100023953-104650-198933.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-023-953%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-023-953%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D13412F17150141DE9313C0B9ED1C36C3&DealName=Nighthawk%20Custom%201911%20Government%20Match%20Grade%20Parts%20Kit%20-%201911%209mm%20Government%20Match%20Grade%20Parts%20Kit&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1274.99&SKU=100023953-100023952-10532']1911[/URL] to present day[/B]) Dan Wesson - [B]a bit expensive, but worth every penny.[/B] AMT - [B]FTE/FTF[/B] [B]cheaper in their day, but still collectable[/B] Armscor - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] ATI - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Auto Ordnance - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Cabot - [B]If you got $4500.00 go for it[/B]. Caspian (slides and frames only) - [B]Your smith will love you for this. Create your own custom 1911[/B] Charles Daly - [B]They shoot and shoot well[/B] Cimarron - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Citadel - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Cylinder & Slide - [B]$2500 might get ya started, but you will not be sorry[/B] CZ USA - [B]makes DW now in Texas[/B] Dan Wesson - [B]pretty sttep price, but well made[/B] Ed Brown - [B]masterpiece 1911s. If you can afford it, do it[/B] High Standard - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Ithaca (old NY-based company, made [URL='http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=nsNwYzdL4Zja7SbB6ARh3g%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fhandguns%2Fsemi-auto%2F1927a-1-deluxe-pistol-10-5in-45-acp-parkerized-50-1-sku100401057-88648-183178.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-057%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-057%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D91A2CD56D2454496892F3881C1FAA643&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1rd%20-%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1149.99&SKU=100401057-100401057-370017']pistols[/URL] under US gov't contract 1943-1945) [B]there out there and are classics[/B] Iver Johnson - [B]$800-900 guns that are well thought of[/B] Kongsberg (M/1914 pistol manufactured in Norway under Colt license) [B]Big bucks, totally for collectors.[/B] Les Baer - [B]masterpiece 1911s. If you can afford it, do it[/B] Llama - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Nighthawk -[B] some of the finest current 1911s made. Very expensive[/B] Norinco - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Nowlin - [B]some of the finest custom 1911s made. Very expensive[/B] Palmetto State [URL='http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=armory']Armory[/URL] Para Ordnance/Para USA - [B]double stack 1911s with a wide grip[/B] Olympic Arms - [B]yes[/B] Randall - [B]good gun if you can find it[/B] [COLOR=#000000][URL='http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=remington']Remington[/URL] Arms - [B]great entry level 1911, easily customized[/B][/COLOR] Rock Island Armory - [B]Cheaper but most are shooters[/B] Rock River Arms - [B]Competition guns for Bullseye shooters[/B] Ruger - g[B]reat entry 1911, easily customized[/B] Sig Sauer - [B]You pay for the name and the performanc[/B]e Singer (US gov't contract, 500 [URL='http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=nsNwYzdL4Zja7SbB6ARh3g%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fhandguns%2Fsemi-auto%2F1927a-1-deluxe-pistol-10-5in-45-acp-parkerized-50-1-sku100401057-88648-183178.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-057%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-057%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D91A2CD56D2454496892F3881C1FAA643&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1rd%20-%201927a-1%20Deluxe%20Pistol%2010.5in%2045%20Acp%20Parkerized%2050%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1149.99&SKU=100401057-100401057-370017']pistols[/URL] produced in 1941) [B]If ya find one, keep it.[/B] Sistema (aka D.G.F.M.-F.M.A.P.) (M1927 pistol manufactured in Argentina under [URL='http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=PWOYA60ATVn3EUGAUXy9Fg%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fhandguns%2Fsemi-auto%2Fxse-government-5in-45-acp-black-8-1-sku100401879-89745-187251.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-879%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-879%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D9E273911E70E42CA956CFB62D57B24EF&DealName=Colt%20Xse%20Government%205in%2045%20Acp%20Black%208%2B1rd%20-%20Xse%20Government%205in%2045%20Acp%20Black%208%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1249.99&SKU=100401879-100401879-370017']Colt[/URL] license) [B]commonly about 400-500 bucks[/B] [COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#000000][URL='http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=QO_z7rpPip2B-_GtYIIjEw%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fm-p10-18in-308-winchester-camo-5-sku100404705-92478-185057.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-404-705%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_campaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-404-705%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26gdfms%3D5C087261FFE048F1942834A8A15F1603&DealName=Smith%20%26%20Wesson%20M%26P10%2018in%20308%20Winchester%20Camo%205%2B1rd%20-%20M%26P10%2018in%20308%20Winchester%20Camo%205&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170527050558&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=1529.99&SKU=100404705-100404705-370018']Smith & Wesson[/URL] -[/COLOR] [B]the name says it all. [/B][/COLOR] Springfield Armory -[B] the RO is a great entry gun, unless politics bother ya.[/B] STI - [B]Race guns mostly and very high end.[/B] Taurus - [B]Lifetime warranty and shoots forever[/B] [/QUOTE]
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