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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1326007" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>Taurus makes good guns generally - but they do have slightly more than their fair share of lemons. Don't listen to the Taurus haters - their revolvers are generally quite strong, well made & nice looking hunks of solid steel, and I'd take one any day over a cheapened 00s or 10s (or even a 90s) S&W with a lock, that's for sure. In other words, if it's not a lemon, you've got a fine revolver. Everyone puts out lemons, and Taurus's ratio is slightly higher than other makers it seems. But not nearly as high as you'd think listening to all the hating on the internet. [I can't really judge their auto pistols fully - not enough info for me to go on.]</p><p></p><p>In any event, I had a Judge, and it's not worth a squirt of warm urine *for the .410 shotguns aspects* (for all the reasons mentioned here in this thread) - and therefore not worth much of anything in handgun form (except for maybe strictly a dedicated snake defense gun, but even then it's heavy and big for that use....), being unduly long for a .45 colt revolver - a dealbreaker in a HANDgun - which needs to be as small as you can make it to serve its purpose.</p><p></p><p>However, if the rifled version of the carbine has deeper rifling than the handgun, *and* if it's accurate, then it will be quite interesting as a .45 colt carbine only, if but only if they bring it out in 16". The fact that it will chamber .410 is superfluous and unnecessary, but it doesn't hurt anything other than adding a half inch of unnecessary length to the carbine, provided the freebore / bullet jump doesn't hurt accuracy (which it DOES seem to in the handgun, but I cannot tell if this is mostly due to bullet jump, or mostly due to the very shallow rifling, or equal parts half and half). I'm guessing (and hoping) that since there's two versions of the carbine, the rifling in the rifled version will be normal, not the shallow kind which is put in the handgun SOLELY to make it (just barely) comply with federal law - not be an SBS.</p><p></p><p>Currently, they purport to offer two 18" versions - a smoothbore and a rifled. Almost there, but not quite. Aesthetically, the carbine is pleasing, and it'd be a good girlfriend /noob home defense rifle, in addition to a fun gun and woods hunter, if you ask me....again, provided they take off the unnecessary last 2" of bbl length.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>LMBO - New sig line! <img src="/images/smilies/image1047.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laughup:" title="Image1047 :laughup:" data-shortname=":laughup:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1326007, member: 7123"] Taurus makes good guns generally - but they do have slightly more than their fair share of lemons. Don't listen to the Taurus haters - their revolvers are generally quite strong, well made & nice looking hunks of solid steel, and I'd take one any day over a cheapened 00s or 10s (or even a 90s) S&W with a lock, that's for sure. In other words, if it's not a lemon, you've got a fine revolver. Everyone puts out lemons, and Taurus's ratio is slightly higher than other makers it seems. But not nearly as high as you'd think listening to all the hating on the internet. [I can't really judge their auto pistols fully - not enough info for me to go on.] In any event, I had a Judge, and it's not worth a squirt of warm urine *for the .410 shotguns aspects* (for all the reasons mentioned here in this thread) - and therefore not worth much of anything in handgun form (except for maybe strictly a dedicated snake defense gun, but even then it's heavy and big for that use....), being unduly long for a .45 colt revolver - a dealbreaker in a HANDgun - which needs to be as small as you can make it to serve its purpose. However, if the rifled version of the carbine has deeper rifling than the handgun, *and* if it's accurate, then it will be quite interesting as a .45 colt carbine only, if but only if they bring it out in 16". The fact that it will chamber .410 is superfluous and unnecessary, but it doesn't hurt anything other than adding a half inch of unnecessary length to the carbine, provided the freebore / bullet jump doesn't hurt accuracy (which it DOES seem to in the handgun, but I cannot tell if this is mostly due to bullet jump, or mostly due to the very shallow rifling, or equal parts half and half). I'm guessing (and hoping) that since there's two versions of the carbine, the rifling in the rifled version will be normal, not the shallow kind which is put in the handgun SOLELY to make it (just barely) comply with federal law - not be an SBS. Currently, they purport to offer two 18" versions - a smoothbore and a rifled. Almost there, but not quite. Aesthetically, the carbine is pleasing, and it'd be a good girlfriend /noob home defense rifle, in addition to a fun gun and woods hunter, if you ask me....again, provided they take off the unnecessary last 2" of bbl length. LMBO - New sig line! :laughup: [/QUOTE]
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