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<blockquote data-quote="vvvvvvv" data-source="post: 1985516" data-attributes="member: 5151"><p>It depends on which part of the Fourteenth Amendment is in question. Incorporation via the Due Process Clause? That in and of itself is an infringement upon natural rights protected by the rest of the Constitution.</p><p></p><p>Privileges or Immunities Clause that was neutered by the Slaughter-House cases? Then one must consider that this clause was debated and intended as a reinforcement of the Privileges and Immunities Clause of Article IV which had been promptly neutered and largely ignored shortly after the country's founding. In that case, Fourteenth Amendment incorporation is proper in the sense that it is congruent with Article IV.</p><p></p><p>Anyone who favors Due Process incorporation believes that there are no such things as natural rights and that "rights" are only granted by governments. With Due Process incorporation (such as what we got with <em>Heller</em> and <em>McDonald</em>), any infringements upon the protection afforded by the Constitution are to be presumed constitutionally-valid until the Supreme Court says otherwise.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Conservatives do the same - mostly with different amendments, but in many cases with different applications of the same amendments.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vvvvvvv, post: 1985516, member: 5151"] It depends on which part of the Fourteenth Amendment is in question. Incorporation via the Due Process Clause? That in and of itself is an infringement upon natural rights protected by the rest of the Constitution. Privileges or Immunities Clause that was neutered by the Slaughter-House cases? Then one must consider that this clause was debated and intended as a reinforcement of the Privileges and Immunities Clause of Article IV which had been promptly neutered and largely ignored shortly after the country's founding. In that case, Fourteenth Amendment incorporation is proper in the sense that it is congruent with Article IV. Anyone who favors Due Process incorporation believes that there are no such things as natural rights and that "rights" are only granted by governments. With Due Process incorporation (such as what we got with [I]Heller[/I] and [I]McDonald[/I]), any infringements upon the protection afforded by the Constitution are to be presumed constitutionally-valid until the Supreme Court says otherwise. Conservatives do the same - mostly with different amendments, but in many cases with different applications of the same amendments. [/QUOTE]
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