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Why Is Media Suppressing Info About Hydroxychloroquine's Effectiveness?
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<blockquote data-quote="_CY_" data-source="post: 3408773" data-attributes="member: 7629"><p>sorry but that's fake science .. very cleverly written to fool the masses</p><p>some truths thrown in like randomized trials are a higher form of evidence.</p><p>what they don't say is randomized trials can be designed to fail</p><p>and can be next to worthless</p><p></p><p>case in point .. the recovery trial in UK ..</p><p>patients were given 2400mg of HCQ in first 24 hours</p><p>2.4grams of HCQ is a toxic dose .. 1800 mg of HCQ is considered admission to hospital range in France. naturally they had to stop HCQ arm of recovery trial due to patients dying probably from toxic doses of HCQ given.</p><p></p><p>above is total bull manure as it's well known what HCQ dosage ranges are safe. after hundreds of millions of doses of HCQ given safely for last 50+ years. HCQ has a safety profile safer than aspirin and Tylenol.</p><p></p><p>if you want to talk dangerous ... look no further than Remdesivir .. only admin IV drip at costs of $3000 vs HCQ $20 .. randomized trials indicate remdesivir provide no improvements on death prevention. on randomized trial in USA for remdesivir had trial goals changed after trial started (fraud?) all it did was showed improvements in hospital stay by a few days. NO improvement for survival. what they never cover are the horrible side effect profile for remdesivir including kidney failure.</p><p></p><p>remdesivir is in an antiviral .. which means when anti viral are given is hugely important.</p><p>case in point .. it's well known tamiflu many not work if not given early.</p><p>reason is simple .. anti virals has to be given before virus has a chance to replicate and massively infect your body. for C19 infection the lungs become the breeding ground for viral replication. when someone with C19 .. shortness of breath is the danger signal to head for hospital.</p><p></p><p>HCQ/zinc/zpak or doxy .. if given when symptoms first presents .. has something like a 99% chance of success (not die) by shutting down viral replication.</p><p>now it's pointed out by Americasfrontlinedoctors ... there are two stages of C19 .. early stage is when HCQ/zinc/zpak or doxy should be given .. to prevent C19 patient from reaching second stage where so cells are infected body reacts with a cytokine storm.</p><p></p><p>when lungs are loaded up with liquids with body is cytokine storm ... antivirals do little if anything. this includes remdesevir and why it doesn't improve survival. anytime you see HCQ only given to late stage patients .. that trial is fake science designed to fail.</p><p>HCQ trials without zinc are also questionable .. without zinc .. HCQ working is now depends upon zinc levels in patient.</p><p></p><p>great .. we now have to deal with fake science ..</p><p>big pharma don't like it when a $20 treatment has a 99% success rate when given at onset of C19 symptoms. no vaccines needed ..</p><p></p><p>big pharma has been working on a vaccine for SARS for 15+ years with NO success. now we are to believe big pharma can safely develop a safe vaccine for COVID-19 in one year??? ya right .. I'd rather get C19 than take a new vaccine. especially when a treatment is available right now for $20 with a 99% success rate if given early. with a safely profile better than aspirin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="_CY_, post: 3408773, member: 7629"] sorry but that's fake science .. very cleverly written to fool the masses some truths thrown in like randomized trials are a higher form of evidence. what they don't say is randomized trials can be designed to fail and can be next to worthless case in point .. the recovery trial in UK .. patients were given 2400mg of HCQ in first 24 hours 2.4grams of HCQ is a toxic dose .. 1800 mg of HCQ is considered admission to hospital range in France. naturally they had to stop HCQ arm of recovery trial due to patients dying probably from toxic doses of HCQ given. above is total bull manure as it's well known what HCQ dosage ranges are safe. after hundreds of millions of doses of HCQ given safely for last 50+ years. HCQ has a safety profile safer than aspirin and Tylenol. if you want to talk dangerous ... look no further than Remdesivir .. only admin IV drip at costs of $3000 vs HCQ $20 .. randomized trials indicate remdesivir provide no improvements on death prevention. on randomized trial in USA for remdesivir had trial goals changed after trial started (fraud?) all it did was showed improvements in hospital stay by a few days. NO improvement for survival. what they never cover are the horrible side effect profile for remdesivir including kidney failure. remdesivir is in an antiviral .. which means when anti viral are given is hugely important. case in point .. it's well known tamiflu many not work if not given early. reason is simple .. anti virals has to be given before virus has a chance to replicate and massively infect your body. for C19 infection the lungs become the breeding ground for viral replication. when someone with C19 .. shortness of breath is the danger signal to head for hospital. HCQ/zinc/zpak or doxy .. if given when symptoms first presents .. has something like a 99% chance of success (not die) by shutting down viral replication. now it's pointed out by Americasfrontlinedoctors ... there are two stages of C19 .. early stage is when HCQ/zinc/zpak or doxy should be given .. to prevent C19 patient from reaching second stage where so cells are infected body reacts with a cytokine storm. when lungs are loaded up with liquids with body is cytokine storm ... antivirals do little if anything. this includes remdesevir and why it doesn't improve survival. anytime you see HCQ only given to late stage patients .. that trial is fake science designed to fail. HCQ trials without zinc are also questionable .. without zinc .. HCQ working is now depends upon zinc levels in patient. great .. we now have to deal with fake science .. big pharma don't like it when a $20 treatment has a 99% success rate when given at onset of C19 symptoms. no vaccines needed .. big pharma has been working on a vaccine for SARS for 15+ years with NO success. now we are to believe big pharma can safely develop a safe vaccine for COVID-19 in one year??? ya right .. I'd rather get C19 than take a new vaccine. especially when a treatment is available right now for $20 with a 99% success rate if given early. with a safely profile better than aspirin. [/QUOTE]
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