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Win 94 30-30 barrel issue / replacement

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing & Repairs' started by ok-22shooter, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. ok-22shooter

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    this is one of those guns I probably should have passed on but seller said how much and accepted my very low offer. SN 3215xxx shows 1969 mfg. 20" barrel. wood is good, flat metal butt plate, action and trigger smooth, about 8 spots of rust plus worn blueing. Bore is dark brown, detectable rifling but hasn't cleaned up any with hopes and a brass brush.

    Found used fair condition barrel for $100, excellent $250, New $300. I'm guessing that a OK knock around truck gun would be worth around $375 or so. In todays market, that may be low. Wondering if anyone out there has gone down this path and has advise on what not to do or what has worked. The though of a caliber conversion has crossed my mind.
     
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    How does it shoot as is?
     
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    Sir, step away from the toolbox!
    ^^^For a knock around gun, this is what matters.
     
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  4. ok-22shooter

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    Never tried shooting thru a truly rusty barrel. no obstructions and did not feel any tight or loose areas. Will be a couple of weeks b4 I can get to the farm to shoot. I did pick up about 20 misc 30-30 rounds to use as an initial "lapping" and then will switch to know quaiity ammo.
     
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    Won't hurt a thing to use stiff stainless bore brush and some sweets 762 solvent if you can find some. Afterall you said the bore was dark.
     
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    This.

    It might surprise ya.
    :drunk2:
     
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    You can just keep at it successively scrubbing and letting the solvent soak a while before brushing and here bronze is not going to hurt a thing.

    Even though I am not able to look at the bore to know if its real bad for proper advise you can plug the barrel up with some rubber or cork and fill it up with solvent and let it soak over night if its terrible and successive cleanings did not satisfy you.,
    You can get more aggressive only as needed in this order Hoppe's 9 on the mild end, Sweets then Montana Extreme and finally some ammonia concoctions you find on the internet. Last and only last is do some bore lapping with JB bore compound on a mop but I have never gone that rad and do not advise.

    Sometimes if the rifles are still intact all the way back, especially in the throat area and through shooting and cleaning you can get those fairly cleaned up it might surprise you. I have an old ancient Remington like this and if you looked at it you would throw it away. Over the years I have gotten it better and it actually shoots fairly good now. I have another one that is dark between the lands that is a bonafied tack driver and I don't know how. The pitts down in between the lands can be dark sometimes and not seem to affect things to bad. It will just be a ROYAL pain in the rear to try to keep clean as all that rough metal then becomes a powder and copper residue magnet, Get ready for some 20-30 patch job cleanings

    Keep up the scrub jobs and run a few rounds through it and it might just surprise the heck out of you. And Keep in mind on something like this Rome wasn't built in a day and just stay at it after every time you shoot it. You cant mess anything up at this point and can only make it better.

    Once you have been down this road hell. You can understand why those old timers put a size 10 boot in your rear if they even saw so much as a speck of rust on your guns. The old guys in my family would just take them away until you grew up enough to manage one. Its only after you get older sometimes did you now understand why, KEEP those puppies CLEAN.
     
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    I have used the ammonia D Windex glass cleaner and a bore brush with good results on a couple of old milsurp rifles to clean the bores. And then clean out with Hoppe's 9. It got a lot of nasty out of the bore. Did not come out bright and shinny but was better than they were and they shot good for what they are.
     
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    If u just want a shooter I have a sears model 54 barrel .20 inches long 30-30. Brite shinney bore if all the dove tails ar in place will take $50.00
     

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