Question Regarding Armed Resource Officers

[Lhecker51]

We just moved to Tulsa. Anyone know if our schools have armed resource officers? Apparently the Superintendent of Tulsa public schools, Deborah Gist is fighting to keep teachers defenseless. We have many teachers that are veterans that would gladly volunteer, but she is actively fighting against effective school safety.

I am also interested in determining how medically equipped and trained teachers are for treating gunshot wounds.

 

[Uncle TK]

School Resource Officers - Are employed by the School District. And follow the school districts policys.
They can or not be a Commissioned Police Officer.
If the SRO is a Commissioned Police Officer and works for the local Police Department. the school district reimburses the Local Police Department for their salary.
On School property they are there to show At Risk Students he is a Good Guy, not to Enforce School Rules.
When he is not on School Property is a regular Commissioned Police Officer. (Just like any off duty officer)
Each School District may have a slightly different job description.

Teachers watch a Video on Blood Born Pathogens and answer a short test.
Coaches are required to take a class on Sports Injures

 

[Honey Badger]

We just moved to Tulsa. Anyone know if our schools have armed resource officers? Apparently the Superintendent of Tulsa public schools, Deborah Gist is fighting to keep teachers defenseless. We have many teachers that are veterans that would gladly volunteer, but she is actively fighting against effective school safety.

I am also interested in determining how medically equipped and trained teachers are for treating gunshot wounds.

We have them at Ponca City. I know…. Not Tulsa. BUT the resource officers at any school I have taught at are employed by the school district. They are ALSO active members of the local police force.

 

[Honey Badger]

We just moved to Tulsa. Anyone know if our schools have armed resource officers? Apparently the Superintendent of Tulsa public schools, Deborah Gist is fighting to keep teachers defenseless. We have many teachers that are veterans that would gladly volunteer, but she is actively fighting against effective school safety.

I am also interested in determining how medically equipped and trained teachers are for treating gunshot wounds.

I don’t know where you came from my friend, but we are teachers not physicians. We have rudimentary first aid skills and can potentially keep a gun shot victim alive till medical help arrives.

 

[Lhecker51]

I don’t know where you came from my friend, but we are teachers not physicians. We have rudimentary first aid skills and can potentially keep a gun shot victim alive till medical help arrives.

Neither are soldiers. The use of torniquets and pressure bandages are basic first aid. I should have cleared that up better. As a teacher, does your school have torniquets and pressure dressings? Airways are another item as are hemostatic impregnated gauze and other solutions. With a mass casualty situation, such as they had in Uvalde, these skill can and do save lives and require very little training to employ properly. Sounds like you have the training, but is any of it focused on gunshot treatment? How receptive and comfortable do you think teachers would be to receiving this training if they have not already done so? It appears that this is district by district. It that is the case I will meet with the district. I have already reached out to state level resources and just received their extensive reply and digesting it at the moment, but he confirms that many decisions are at the district level with some state level requirements such as active shooter drills 4 times a year.

 

[Bocephus123]

We just moved to Tulsa. Anyone know if our schools have armed resource officers? Apparently the Superintendent of Tulsa public schools, Deborah Gist is fighting to keep teachers defenseless. We have many teachers that are veterans that would gladly volunteer, but she is actively fighting against effective school safety.

I am also interested in determining how medically equipped and trained teachers are for treating gunshot wounds.

she's pretty much a tree hugger

 

[JEVapa]

I don’t know where you came from my friend, but we are teachers not physicians. We have rudimentary first aid skills and can potentially keep a gun shot victim alive till medical help arrives.

You don't need to be a physician to be able to respond to emergency trauma correctly. It's a matter of training, primarily first responder tasks following TCCC guidelines. We call it sticks and rags because it's primarily initial assessment and noninvasive application of hemorrhage control and minor airway management, using bandages, cravats, tourniquets, OPAs, etc. and covers down on some fieldcraft implementation of these supplies/principals.

TCCC was developed initially for SOF medics as a response to Mogadishu. It eventually became a standard in the Army and has transitioned to the Prehospital setting.
There is this type of training all over the country, just many either don't know, or believe only a doctor or nurse can stop bleeding and plug holes.
Add: TCCC focuses on Life Threats vs following an ABC (Airway, Breathing, Circulation) survey they teach in the past and many current Prehospital settings. I believe most PH treatments for trauma are moving to TCCC.

NAEMT link to TCCC guidelines:
http://naemt.org/education/naemt-tccc/tccc-mp-guidelines-and-curriculum
This is more advanced and geared toward existing medical personnel but there are the first responder classes through various orgs and companies. Many of these have curriculum geared towards schools/teachers and folks with minimal medical knowledge.

 

[Poke78]

You don't need to be a physician to be able to respond to emergency trauma correctly. It's a matter of training, primarily first responder tasks following TCCC guidelines. We call it sticks and rags because it's primarily initial assessment and noninvasive application of hemorrhage control and minor airway management, using bandages, cravats, tourniquets, OPAs, etc. and covers down on some fieldcraft implementation of these supplies/principals.

TCCC was developed initially for SOF medics as a response to Mogadishu. It eventually became a standard in the Army and has transitioned to the Prehospital setting.
There is this type of training all over the country, just many either don't know, or believe only a doctor or nurse can stop bleeding and plug holes.

NAEMT link to TCCC guidelines:
http://naemt.org/education/naemt-tccc/tccc-mp-guidelines-and-curriculum
This is more advances and geared toward existing medical personnel but there are the first responder classes through various orgs and companies. Many of these have curriculum geared towards schools/teachers and folks with minimal medical knowledge.

Excellent and well-informed response. Shortly before my retirement from Tulsa Technology Center in early 2020, a "Stop the Bleed" class was taught by a Tulsa County deputy who is an on-campus LEO contracted by Tulsa Tech with the TCSO. It was a well-done class and very informative about the equipment in the kits with specific practice on proper usage for penetrating wounds. I'm a former EMT from way back so I was interested to see how the skills were taught and what the kits contained. Every emergency cabinet with a Automatic Emergency Defibrillator now also has a Stop the Bleed kit. It is the height of living in denial, combined with a "not my job, man" attitude, to avoid being a responsible human being.

 

[Bocephus123]

would be a good course for teachers, nurse and maint staff.

 

[JEVapa]

I'll ping a couple buddies of mine that are doing civilian courses and see what they can do or if they have POCs here.