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<blockquote data-quote="Billybob" data-source="post: 3138035" data-attributes="member: 1294"><p>Although it's a touchy and potentially slippery slope subject it's a very real concept accepted by many people around the world for some time, not just here. It certainly seems to have been invoked in the Supreme Ct. case of Buck v. Bell when Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, "if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind". This was when the court upheld involuntary sterilization. </p><p></p><p>Today in the midst of genetic research while still controversial it's accepted as a factor in criminality in many studies...</p><p>"In industrialized countries, the majority of all violent crime is committed by a relatively small group of antisocial recidivistic offenders,<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R1" target="_blank">1</a>,<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R2" target="_blank">2</a> and more than 50% of severe antisocial behavior is attributable to genetic factors.<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R3" target="_blank">3</a> The classic study by Mednick <em>et al</em>.,<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R4" target="_blank">4</a> reported a significant correlation between adoptees and their biological parents for property crimes, but not for violent crimes. However, a recent study using an enormous Swedish nationwide adoption database with a long follow-up period found convincing evidence that the criminal records of biological parents predicted both violent and non-violent criminality among their adopted away children."</p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/</a></p><p></p><p>Also notable is that genetics has been used in court as a mitigating factor to reduce punishment...</p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128043329" target="_blank">https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128043329</a></p><p></p><p>I'm making no judgement on the subject, just pointing out it can't be automatically dismissed as a crack-pot theory embraced by a backward state.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Billybob, post: 3138035, member: 1294"] Although it's a touchy and potentially slippery slope subject it's a very real concept accepted by many people around the world for some time, not just here. It certainly seems to have been invoked in the Supreme Ct. case of Buck v. Bell when Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, "if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind". This was when the court upheld involuntary sterilization. Today in the midst of genetic research while still controversial it's accepted as a factor in criminality in many studies... "In industrialized countries, the majority of all violent crime is committed by a relatively small group of antisocial recidivistic offenders,[URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R1']1[/URL],[URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R2']2[/URL] and more than 50% of severe antisocial behavior is attributable to genetic factors.[URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R3']3[/URL] The classic study by Mednick [I]et al[/I].,[URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/#R4']4[/URL] reported a significant correlation between adoptees and their biological parents for property crimes, but not for violent crimes. However, a recent study using an enormous Swedish nationwide adoption database with a long follow-up period found convincing evidence that the criminal records of biological parents predicted both violent and non-violent criminality among their adopted away children." [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4776744/[/URL] Also notable is that genetics has been used in court as a mitigating factor to reduce punishment... [URL]https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128043329[/URL] I'm making no judgement on the subject, just pointing out it can't be automatically dismissed as a crack-pot theory embraced by a backward state. [/QUOTE]
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