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.223 is it worth getting a bolt-action?
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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1759307" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>This. </p><p></p><p>Also, if you want to shoot above 300-400yds with a .223 in any sort of wind at all (and the last few years, it feels like friggin Kansas around here) then I wouldn't go with .223. Even a larger 75gr .223 bullet is way more susceptible to movement from wind than say a smaller 150gr .308 bullet.</p><p></p><p>I'm personally a fan of .308, but it has it's limitations as well. To me .308 is the perfect combination of accuracy, support/knowledge, price, and recoil. </p><p></p><p>If you want to shoot match-grade ammunition, then you're going to spend more than your average .223 price. Anything with the word "match" next to it and in larger than 55gr is going to cost you almost as much as what .308 Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr MatchKing BTHP's are going to cost you.</p><p></p><p>If you reload, you might save a few pennies per round, but you're still not talking the price of Mil-Surp or bulk-ammo from online if you want the accurate stuff.</p><p></p><p>When we plink with .223/ARs and stretch it out, the cheap stuff does just fine, but we're not trying to make groups at 300-400yds, just banging steel. With the AR platform, a good barrel and decent trigger control can make for easy groups at ~300yds with even some of the cheaper ammo. It's when you go much beyond that distance that it gets a little harder but it's still possible with the right setup/training/ammo.</p><p></p><p>Me personally, I'd stick with an AR or go to a bolt-gun in a different caliber. ARs are more than accurate enough for most plinking and you can learn the basics out to ~300yds while you think about what you want to do when you get ready to stretch it out further.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As to the difference between .223/5.56/Wylde, here's a long-winded technical doc:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.armalite.com/images/Tech%20Notes/TECH%20NOTE%2074%20%205.56%20vs%20223%20vs%20Wylde%20090817%20Rev%200.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.armalite.com/images/Tech Notes/TECH NOTE 74 5.56 vs 223 vs Wylde 090817 Rev 0.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1759307, member: 229"] This. Also, if you want to shoot above 300-400yds with a .223 in any sort of wind at all (and the last few years, it feels like friggin Kansas around here) then I wouldn't go with .223. Even a larger 75gr .223 bullet is way more susceptible to movement from wind than say a smaller 150gr .308 bullet. I'm personally a fan of .308, but it has it's limitations as well. To me .308 is the perfect combination of accuracy, support/knowledge, price, and recoil. If you want to shoot match-grade ammunition, then you're going to spend more than your average .223 price. Anything with the word "match" next to it and in larger than 55gr is going to cost you almost as much as what .308 Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr MatchKing BTHP's are going to cost you. If you reload, you might save a few pennies per round, but you're still not talking the price of Mil-Surp or bulk-ammo from online if you want the accurate stuff. When we plink with .223/ARs and stretch it out, the cheap stuff does just fine, but we're not trying to make groups at 300-400yds, just banging steel. With the AR platform, a good barrel and decent trigger control can make for easy groups at ~300yds with even some of the cheaper ammo. It's when you go much beyond that distance that it gets a little harder but it's still possible with the right setup/training/ammo. Me personally, I'd stick with an AR or go to a bolt-gun in a different caliber. ARs are more than accurate enough for most plinking and you can learn the basics out to ~300yds while you think about what you want to do when you get ready to stretch it out further. As to the difference between .223/5.56/Wylde, here's a long-winded technical doc: [url]http://www.armalite.com/images/Tech%20Notes/TECH%20NOTE%2074%20%205.56%20vs%20223%20vs%20Wylde%20090817%20Rev%200.pdf[/url] [/QUOTE]
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