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<blockquote data-quote="aestus" data-source="post: 1995638" data-attributes="member: 2989"><p>I'm a fan of the .300 Blackout. However, I don't see it replacing 5.56/.223 anytime soon, nor should it. It has different applications. </p><p></p><p>What makes .300 Blk attractive over other alternative calibers for the AR platform is the cost to play is minimal and the return in investment is huge. Basically all you need is a different barrel. You use the same bolt and mags.</p><p></p><p>Also, the recoil is very similar to 5.56. It impulses a little harder, but the muzzle rise is about the same. Where .300 blk shines is in SBRs. The round was made for that. Even in short 7.5" barrels, the rounds still achieves about 90% efficiency and less powder is unburnt. Cleaner system to run and cleaner and easier on your suppressors. The subsonic rounds suppressed are about the quietest rounds you can shoot outside of .22lr and at 220gr they hit pretty hard. </p><p></p><p>The best part of .300 blk is that the system was also designed to use the same gas system for both supersonic 110gr rounds and 220 gr subsonic rounds with no adjustments. You don't have to fiddle with adjustable gas systems or worry about gas pressure. If your rifle is built correctly, it will cycle both supersonic and subsonic no problems. </p><p></p><p>A lot of the critics will say that there's no need, since we have 7.62x39. The problem is that 7.62x39 doesn't consistently run reliably in the AR platform. Sure there's people who have AR's that are 100% running 7.62x39, but that's not the case across the board. Second, 7.62x39 requires new mags and new bolt. With .300 blk, you use the same mags and same bolt and keep the same capacity. Last, the beauty of .300 blackout is the ability to shoot supersonic and subsonic rounds out of the same rifle with the same gas system run reliably out of an SBR. I'm sure someone could or does make custom subsonic 220gr 7.62x39 ammo, but I would imagine the price to be more expensive for those type of rounds than what even .300 blk is going for.</p><p></p><p>I know a lot of skeptics who don't like 6.5 or 6.8 for the AR's. They also hated the concept of .300 blk, until they actually spent a day with it. It's one of those rounds that once you spend a day shooting it, you instantly "get it" and love it. </p><p></p><p>If you feel like watching a vid. Here's a recent video of Travis Haley talking about the .300 blk. He talks about the drop, energy and you can also see him consistently nail a steel target 750m away with a .300 blk SBR rifle using only a red dot, heh.</p><p></p><p>[media=youtube]tgKjbySsAik[/media]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aestus, post: 1995638, member: 2989"] I'm a fan of the .300 Blackout. However, I don't see it replacing 5.56/.223 anytime soon, nor should it. It has different applications. What makes .300 Blk attractive over other alternative calibers for the AR platform is the cost to play is minimal and the return in investment is huge. Basically all you need is a different barrel. You use the same bolt and mags. Also, the recoil is very similar to 5.56. It impulses a little harder, but the muzzle rise is about the same. Where .300 blk shines is in SBRs. The round was made for that. Even in short 7.5" barrels, the rounds still achieves about 90% efficiency and less powder is unburnt. Cleaner system to run and cleaner and easier on your suppressors. The subsonic rounds suppressed are about the quietest rounds you can shoot outside of .22lr and at 220gr they hit pretty hard. The best part of .300 blk is that the system was also designed to use the same gas system for both supersonic 110gr rounds and 220 gr subsonic rounds with no adjustments. You don't have to fiddle with adjustable gas systems or worry about gas pressure. If your rifle is built correctly, it will cycle both supersonic and subsonic no problems. A lot of the critics will say that there's no need, since we have 7.62x39. The problem is that 7.62x39 doesn't consistently run reliably in the AR platform. Sure there's people who have AR's that are 100% running 7.62x39, but that's not the case across the board. Second, 7.62x39 requires new mags and new bolt. With .300 blk, you use the same mags and same bolt and keep the same capacity. Last, the beauty of .300 blackout is the ability to shoot supersonic and subsonic rounds out of the same rifle with the same gas system run reliably out of an SBR. I'm sure someone could or does make custom subsonic 220gr 7.62x39 ammo, but I would imagine the price to be more expensive for those type of rounds than what even .300 blk is going for. I know a lot of skeptics who don't like 6.5 or 6.8 for the AR's. They also hated the concept of .300 blk, until they actually spent a day with it. It's one of those rounds that once you spend a day shooting it, you instantly "get it" and love it. If you feel like watching a vid. Here's a recent video of Travis Haley talking about the .300 blk. He talks about the drop, energy and you can also see him consistently nail a steel target 750m away with a .300 blk SBR rifle using only a red dot, heh. [media=youtube]tgKjbySsAik[/media] [/QUOTE]
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