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<blockquote data-quote="MoBoost" data-source="post: 1998308" data-attributes="member: 3455"><p>Wrong - once the bullet leaves the barrel only gravity, drag and gyroscopic stability matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again, wrong - shape of the case has nothing to do with bullet flight (see above). There is indeed trivial difference in caliber (.308 vs .310) - but for sake of this discussion it is 100% negligible. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is ridicules - you can use the same darn bullet in either cartridge, one just had more boiler room and can shove the same bullet faster. Apples to apples.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>9" 300 125gn @ 2026FPS- 1139ft/lb w .338 BC <a href="http://300aacblackout.com/resources/300-BLK.pdf" target="_blank">source</a></p><p>14.5" 5.56 75gn @ 2627FPS - 1151ft/lb .360 BC <a href="http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=283506" target="_blank">source</a></p><p></p><p>Sorry, 5.56 has more energy and better bullet - 300 just can't hang.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Blackout is not optimized for nothing - it is just a blind luck consequence of 300 Whisper that 220gn bullet goes subsonic. As far as taking role of SMG - well, SMGs seem to be doing just fine with over-the-counter handgun ammunition - so why reinvent the wheel?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, there is nothing special about 300 blk - it is the same 20 year old cartridge just <strong>heavily marketed</strong> to general public. The difference? 300 Whisper had a specific use ... 300 BLK doesn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you start with lowered expectations in accuracy department ... what can I say...</p><p></p><p></p><p>.308 offers greater energy and distance over 223 at cost of recoil and size; 300 offers ... less range and less accuracy and more recoil ... wtf?</p><p></p><p>As far as subsonic goes - as I said, SMG just do it sooooo well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoBoost, post: 1998308, member: 3455"] Wrong - once the bullet leaves the barrel only gravity, drag and gyroscopic stability matter. Again, wrong - shape of the case has nothing to do with bullet flight (see above). There is indeed trivial difference in caliber (.308 vs .310) - but for sake of this discussion it is 100% negligible. Again, this is ridicules - you can use the same darn bullet in either cartridge, one just had more boiler room and can shove the same bullet faster. Apples to apples. 9" 300 125gn @ 2026FPS- 1139ft/lb w .338 BC [URL="http://300aacblackout.com/resources/300-BLK.pdf"]source[/URL] 14.5" 5.56 75gn @ 2627FPS - 1151ft/lb .360 BC [URL="http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=283506"]source[/URL] Sorry, 5.56 has more energy and better bullet - 300 just can't hang. Blackout is not optimized for nothing - it is just a blind luck consequence of 300 Whisper that 220gn bullet goes subsonic. As far as taking role of SMG - well, SMGs seem to be doing just fine with over-the-counter handgun ammunition - so why reinvent the wheel? Again, there is nothing special about 300 blk - it is the same 20 year old cartridge just [B]heavily marketed[/B] to general public. The difference? 300 Whisper had a specific use ... 300 BLK doesn't. If you start with lowered expectations in accuracy department ... what can I say... .308 offers greater energy and distance over 223 at cost of recoil and size; 300 offers ... less range and less accuracy and more recoil ... wtf? As far as subsonic goes - as I said, SMG just do it sooooo well. [/QUOTE]
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